Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mbQLN-0003kI-8Q for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2021 16:46:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mbQLM-0007W3-7j for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2021 16:46:04 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mbQIZ-0003vV-TF for pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2021 16:43:11 +0000 Received: from mail-io1-xd2f.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2f]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mbQIV-0007wK-Bf for pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2021 16:43:10 +0000 Received: by mail-io1-xd2f.google.com with SMTP id 188so8400463iou.12 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2021 09:43:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=3WjuEel/T78osg8m7TQWgnvf72M1N8RLQfkaBHx5FNI=; b=bjSAwR/lUqkdJQVU1lNuJVF0ESs0ts3UFs78gjYLT9O6knZQyHVDEmyvAx0CsoHlvM SSycxSLiBkuEVcCir3s7rWbec7ct5XaU0XynbpsIxkfXXt3xSEv3aRppHkadx8swLq+/ nHwiB/AkXk1yKN/CsIdPVK2VlpnITY/TLXNkkO2BxBV2Th10FQqhBJ12zcCE2hrcS8BU ICatT5/RdHF3+Axra47IqiXLWzKY1j1IsH2vPTteLSvF0M8sonIc1Mrk43xJxgPmtKD1 JaqgGvbwtHzFnhpGSd31ODgVtIW3HaB5mmMCYgoa4GbdHvE/xZfsI82UVSY2wbOnfXPD V5wg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=3WjuEel/T78osg8m7TQWgnvf72M1N8RLQfkaBHx5FNI=; b=PaVVHkcJQSqt42l7LJvnCksfs+ZJi+tMJs8Lfy5McRLNQlRxnC5lOyQGK6yUilJvlH 2Y4ejzH17af22vxxisydIrSTA6elwt4+17iA73a7/0j02iJaeR5HwvtFq8rXhfho5r7U 1Y0yj1EblxzTKG4PN0obtGB9StlrsTWu5Et3fDhpteDB74KcfIc6Qmu7m2n7YbbPbsCP CEyv4h5r5OY0QxE8gqF2Jmc1WGPM65oBMETzBtqU3WMIxyYeK1Qt/48xY9bHXQYCagAm vpOnaKn2+5hxg2VbzSGiljjLwamPOSrtHMmgsCplZmTRKkmV3MINsr3l4HwBluZeWue4 51tg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532y4IehEHe8IGUYI0RXM2K/lQLL9IyI/0sCs5AxNf5ItY1Dsg35 6VVz4H3JjKvI8XuTo9/GqDWpCLtxIrqcuaUtOkFboTHwSww= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxCAdqkySXkovXN/uq82wzkM1exMeEdaC6i3ovndM5Cm+sv25XlZ7vZevZ1X4co2lr0IID+8M+d1IVewNeb4oc= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6602:2c02:: with SMTP id w2mr4510402iov.45.1634316186398; Fri, 15 Oct 2021 09:43:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <62246dc63af9c9a4af3648fbdb45c55e@postgresql.org> In-Reply-To: <62246dc63af9c9a4af3648fbdb45c55e@postgresql.org> From: Robert Haas Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 12:42:55 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Elein, question regarding PostgreSQL Global Development. To: Justin Clift Cc: "elein@varlena.com" , PostgreSQL Advocacy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 12:09 PM Justin Clift wrote: > ... on the other hand, it's kind of hard to take a place calling > themselves > "tech leaders" seriously, when their website is HTTP only. :/ Yeah, I doubt that this is an organization that is of any real importance. If I Google for "bay area tech leaders," no links to BayAreaTechLeaders.org come up in the first four pages of search results. If I search for "BayAreaTechLeaders" without spaces, the first references show up on the third page of search results ... and that's just basically people who know there is a DNS record for that domain. To actually get the web site BayAreaTechLeaders.org to come up, I have to search for "BayAreaTechLeaders.org." And even doing that, there's no sign of anybody else talking about this web site. I just get the website itself, a webrate.org link talking about how much traffic they think it gets, and then stuff that has nothing to do with this organization. Maybe someday this will be an important organization for us to make contacts with, but I think that today is not that day. -- Robert Haas EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com