Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qeAI0-005xmt-CN for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 07 Sep 2023 08:23:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qeAHy-00Gxng-W7 for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 07 Sep 2023 08:22:58 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qeAHy-00GxnQ-KC for pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 07 Sep 2023 08:22:58 +0000 Received: from mail-pf1-x429.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::429]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qeAHt-003bco-Vr for pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 07 Sep 2023 08:22:57 +0000 Received: by mail-pf1-x429.google.com with SMTP id d2e1a72fcca58-68a3e271491so573176b3a.0 for ; Thu, 07 Sep 2023 01:22:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hagander-net.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1694074971; x=1694679771; darn=lists.postgresql.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=Wp7324Kep+0LB3Dq41IaE2sUhw+IQgsKJuq6wlsEmzA=; b=WhquPPTHXsXeU9DQ4S4NBslyIGYyUMJ5hFfWccrZeTyK4iD8cyc8+aC7pF4C3QmDb4 zlU/Xik14PT1Sbgo8vBOZjo9RTnHw9mXqZwDcm9IcAgVt9BvSktPzLhLAyYrtZ113eIu GOUC4P47ee93gsuqMqk5Bojuf8qCpp8OOld9CMKKIzbClvGuhpfH1h7gqN3D5p9Gmuvq airXsvBTqJ0C3RdWmGCYo/TPJYxo6TTFTpbd4WAsLLcOSsxnYy+pAIfVpMQAUA072rcB j6WMCXnkejZPpFaKkn3e9057aqCDrGmO3/PvYind7pzNKl04VSPbfG8SDRQYqEHXEK9K nApA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1694074971; x=1694679771; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Wp7324Kep+0LB3Dq41IaE2sUhw+IQgsKJuq6wlsEmzA=; b=McjTlL1eoO2CdbmR5XRFMYswQ8PkCAFF9Ydzvc0l9geuURa0XGJGpzUxYde4vA7MWQ +D+sh3uAp3vgVXyrW+Oa/nyvGR7gXHe2bR0vJdGg3ItY7kwZQ3U5K2XEIj2BmEwFUue2 yMp51t8K09gjHIclLNYyHBGgHNsK81PGgBAw++6k/mLlck9gt6zLY+rQEI+HUcvVwC/F fQMM5Kroh+OyhY24KYJ2/rPdrCnM4Oo/XnfUxWQ09NTXb1mnNVrS3Hqvhv0RqWmfIv0N 7EvKW8uOYNQVSBhCPj98GbaHZPkcWMOd8rLo7uxDusDWa/E9siPGwx3nHDl5+ptX0anV 8/9g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwfwcDiPWpqr1IRpur86hao7c5stGZtlHQNnV48d20dG6ITem6v algjNqy3XU34Iycbz5XvI43xNa6xNB3tR8+vJN69lg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGziGBXagal/aOuv/p9aJDeF7CAjvLsNQck/ytTIir9Uf92QmXugNIokokErtx29sTH7iTHcFFFkQaYk5QwpDY= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a00:1916:b0:68b:fb93:5b4e with SMTP id y22-20020a056a00191600b0068bfb935b4emr18214961pfi.26.1694074971463; Thu, 07 Sep 2023 01:22:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Magnus Hagander Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2023 10:22:37 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Birmingham City Council chose Oracle, went broke because of it ;) To: Justin Clift Cc: PostgreSQL Advocacy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 1:49=E2=80=AFAM Justin Clift = wrote: > > Heh Heh Heh. This is pretty funny: > > https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/05/birmingham_city_council_oracle/ > > "Birmingham City Council, the largest local authority in Europe, has > declared itself in financial distress after troubled Oracle project > costs ballooned from =C2=A320 million to around =C2=A3100 million ($1= 25.5 > million)." > > Wonder if they'll make the smart choice next time around, and choose PG > + a decent vendor instead? :) In fairness, that project is about Oracle Fusion, not the database. So PG doesn't have a competing product. There are opensource ERP products out there, but I'm not sure they're advanced enough to handle something like that... --=20 Magnus Hagander Me: https://www.hagander.net/ Work: https://www.redpill-linpro.com/