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Johnston" , PostgreSQL WWW Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000fc1d0505b03cf229" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --000000000000fc1d0505b03cf229 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 9:25 PM Christophe Pettus wrote: > > > > On Sep 26, 2020, at 12:17, Adrian Klaver > wrote: > > > > On 9/26/20 11:05 AM, ourdiaspora wrote: > >> =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Origin= al Message =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 > >> On Saturday, September 26, 2020 5:04 PM, David G. Johnston < > david.g.johnston@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:11 AM ourdiaspora < > ourdiaspora@protonmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Mail list readers, > >>>> > >>>> Firstly, within the mailing list web pages, references to > "blacklist"??? > >>> > >>> Maybe provide a link to where and a suggested alternative wording. > >>> > >> See title 'Manage email addresses' after sign-in to your postgresql we= b > site account > >> "allowed", "dis-allowed" could suffice > > > > Still not sure what the issue is. > > On this page: > > https://lists.postgresql.org/manage/ > > In the section "Manage email addresses", the text reads in part: > > You can also blacklist your own email address from the lists. > > "Blacklist" is an increasingly disfavored term. I think "block" or > "disallow" are both reasonable alternatives. > > I'm moving this from -advocacy to -www, since that's a more appropriate > list to discuss the change. > > There is already work in progress to get this replaced. There are some backend considerations as well which is why it's not just a search/replace (and not fixing those would make it inconsistent), but it's been on the list for a while to get sorted out so it's definitely on people's radar. --=20 Magnus Hagander Me: https://www.hagander.net/ Work: https://www.redpill-linpro.com/ --000000000000fc1d0505b03cf229 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 9:25 PM Chris= tophe Pettus <xof@thebuild.com&g= t; wrote:


> On Sep 26, 2020, at 12:17, Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com> wro= te:
>
> On 9/26/20 11:05 AM, ourdiaspora wrote:
>> =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Or= iginal Message =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80= =90
>> On Saturday, September 26, 2020 5:04 PM, David G. Johnston <david.g.johnst= on@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:11 AM ourdiaspora <ourdiaspora@protonmail.co= m> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mail list readers,
>>>>
>>>> Firstly, within the mailing list web pages, references to = "blacklist"???
>>>
>>> Maybe provide a link to where and a suggested alternative word= ing.
>>>
>> See title 'Manage email addresses' after sign-in to your p= ostgresql web site account
>> "allowed", "dis-allowed" could suffice
>
> Still not sure what the issue is.

On this page:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://lists.postgresql.org/manage/=

In the section "Manage email addresses", the text reads in part:<= br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 You can also blacklist your own email address f= rom the lists.

"Blacklist" is an increasingly disfavored term.=C2=A0 I think &qu= ot;block" or "disallow" are both reasonable alternatives.
I'm moving this from -advocacy to -www, since that's a more appropr= iate list to discuss the change.


Th= ere is already work in progress to get this replaced. There are some backen= d considerations as well which is why it's not just a search/replace (a= nd not fixing those would make it inconsistent), but it's been on the l= ist for a while to get sorted out so it's definitely on people's ra= dar.

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=C2=A0Magnus Hagander
=C2=A0Me: https://www.hagander.net/=C2=A0Work: h= ttps://www.redpill-linpro.com/
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