Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hRoS7-0000QP-5x for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 18 May 2019 01:47:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hRoS5-0001FV-EC for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 18 May 2019 01:47:57 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hRoS5-0001FO-72 for pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 18 May 2019 01:47:57 +0000 Received: from mail-ot1-x341.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::341]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hRoRy-00018B-Gc for pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 18 May 2019 01:47:56 +0000 Received: by mail-ot1-x341.google.com with SMTP id s19so8402795otq.5 for ; Fri, 17 May 2019 18:47:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bowt-ie.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=fnoIZoyRdaJgM2HsNTAJLDEnnv+UdW20XUX/fZAHK9o=; b=eVlmdXooKjgCheqKU8rOPBfW++ObbhWlrjCO9+wYJQ2+lfJkjPJTC+BLhbvwKqRkiX grSML8lC1LNm3Bk+gOM6SMCqFobw3261wnyEn7gXCMkYmGC3WwxGilJxGD1VNj4MPOWL lrXndm5sXqa0TDr4Rcy03NNh1+bQaAIQ1swRMheIxK4Wm7MV6SC1ybzI/ubhsIa9yA6G Oaz5Ho+u+gk0Bsufg1qvk+7tBRzwL3mf9+vljNK6g0tUmERETLlO0LVIeXXlEg+i667H ZENNq3YS9ePMReBf0GB+g6ZESdmbtAoPn2BTHvoJkJXgmfEegYu+xD32ko0SfNvO7Tj4 Y5eQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=fnoIZoyRdaJgM2HsNTAJLDEnnv+UdW20XUX/fZAHK9o=; b=IIaosekDwu0FG5EVzFecf8bBdNS6MW9o/ls2LYRO+dybosstBnuo+DlIIoqn0kgHYz z8+H29UQOPSbImFxq+OwRYf1IQPyuZ7Ry/LBpW5v03GrHBg4jc44sY7Tz4W2VypDeY1P erZdVokfjFxQMnPFO7KzhfuFthyEO6gC52Geo5h5bp4wz8LqWwgpWW3WtpTtdz8SZmlv AVXPMTGW633vOmZLf0H/b/IN9+31gQN5aWdENMCpAABdlypC7VN8xH0YO5krKTab1Rlj Toei8tGZprzfzM+RnucwEAbUxtY6Aa4Gdn4VX58dMyiozHdpIeiQ8Ll6WWd0tIXR+mKi CWqg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVaE0mgf/dpuqg6L8h6428ZWKZAMs8+s5vPjMUgIvbofTQ/Y3ZX WeAb/MmkI0wxDOky3TKWGvq5UWNCm3vG4ATe2Ausow== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyFXxeEEat4cW8z2wvhGzvpdfx6ASCJ4kKM17nLO2obhmeItkFSTz1p1vxdY3RTdN6/MLg990Ckq5/yL0bHUgg= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:160a:: with SMTP id g10mr428194otr.121.1558144068326; Fri, 17 May 2019 18:47:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <830415f7-78ec-ef7b-0f73-0e810ef87f91@postgresql.org> <20190516182628.kbkiajfnlooocgyg@momjian.us> <0cf10a27-c6a0-de4a-cd20-ab7493ea7422@lab.ntt.co.jp> <20190517153653.pmolnulev6imwsn3@momjian.us> In-Reply-To: From: Peter Geoghegan Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 18:47:37 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PostgreSQL 12: Feature Highlights To: David Rowley Cc: Bruce Momjian , Amit Langote , "Jonathan S. Katz" , PostgreSQL Advocacy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 6:39 PM David Rowley wrote: > FWIW, I do think the release notes should be meant as a source of > information which give a brief view on changes made that have a > reasonable possibility of affecting people (either negative or > positively) who are upgrading. Leaving out important details because > they might confuse a small group of people seems wrong-headed If the only thing that comes out of the developer meeting discussion item on release notes is that we make the commits behind each listing *discoverable* from the web, then that will still be a big improvement. I would prefer it if we went further, but that seems like it solves a lot of problems without creating new ones. -- Peter Geoghegan