Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oD9P4-0007re-Et for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2022 18:54:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oD9P2-0007sD-Kl for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2022 18:54:04 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oD9P2-0007s4-98 for pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2022 18:54:04 +0000 Received: from mail-ej1-x631.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::631]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oD9Ov-0001wq-GY for pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2022 18:54:03 +0000 Received: by mail-ej1-x631.google.com with SMTP id ez10so17743229ejc.13 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2022 11:53:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bowt-ie.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=oegbgXs74/19yg+jgoGs+JwVV1Hw6VtVLCYEVo5OcRs=; b=VVzLfq8auC1VvCATCtIvBL/R91zsJ3lwCZWiFp51r87ti05pFpPbmUqt0QKNU6RoD4 HW8TIiBPsht3cA9vkMQ9ZnJ7tjxPRIwopAvASWm7qGwv204QbYe7nL3CpHWOT0hozGLB ICmPc8rrx62KlL/2MHsR6r8KZxzcIZJTy3y20vOQKASopsJ1drykJvDpKgCnc6Yk3Waa K+xFwsmeNfvFZ648D9lUe3klp+WidT1WTeYsy11WRpUzblhRYMJ7tCIVUS0Ans0aUsk1 U53JYjqOWXx+MRLAhNqQDTgVgJzvEbYIy+XZREYSOu1EiG+g6iN0klHD7wWkoSeRFWMP toUw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=oegbgXs74/19yg+jgoGs+JwVV1Hw6VtVLCYEVo5OcRs=; b=kR/8Lg1y1BZE7dMxO1KB9dl1NLWIvkM1xUuBupsaZr8KkORhs/UwPWfhm+0BS1K91N Dw/0ao/0saBM5jeC1I1BsqVaqKCUQYSqDrFjA2rKS6t+3GPeupOReUe8fKxzBamlLbvH SI/zS+Z0sx6r9wE7NHJkOzc1uHxB4DMYS6eWcQNODU8HHiorhDeEcPkFBJ9j02MNOcYQ N7q7w26W/pI/akGJFeEjmHMdBM/sTs4ssTxc+UXRJM3kFoaqOUfKxCe5OxOuDhdbEInk 1wM5Ha334VSC8F25FVZ0PMqW/zgHLeAcdC1G14KbpcQVGMTiVICrvnJEF55oCO43FXtb /9+g== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora9pZ+Z3zc1GQ4ZRvh4ZbmDB/Piv88JgV/MIEkovgN1+U/zlbCc/ elopbjPHZ8fBE980CnUY5MquNYSNLEbuTCSOIX05Pw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1s/JxPj6P68i1rTfFkBP1ozt3OrKqXvFl51AsL3IulKo9NHlS8c4IBcdZ6mAfBe+ocLvMn35uCzWQGgpPFOFqE= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:149:b0:712:c8:fa53 with SMTP id 9-20020a170906014900b0071200c8fa53mr21524060ejh.563.1658084035676; Sun, 17 Jul 2022 11:53:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Peter Geoghegan Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2022 11:53:29 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Feature matrix updates To: "Jonathan S. Katz" Cc: PostgreSQL Advocacy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 11:34 AM Jonathan S. Katz wrote: > In addition to adding information about new features in PostgreSQL > 15[1][2], this version of the feature matrix adds additional categories > including: > > * Replication > * JSON > * Transactions and Visibility > * VACUUM and Maintenance > * Client Applications Looks good, but can we remove "Autovacuum enabled by default" and "Multiple autovacuum workers"? That would leave only "Integrated autovacuum daemon", which seems like it covers the existence of autovacuum in enough detail. I believe that autovacuum has existed in more or less its current form for far longer than the total lifespan of "autovacuum as a contrib extension". Prehistoric autovacuum just doesn't seem like a useful point of comparison here. There are still probably some places in the docs which imply that autovacuum plays second fiddle to the VACUUM command, when if anything it's really the other way around. We still have lots of problems with the documentation of VACUUM, which I hope to get around to fixing in the next few months. Thanks -- Peter Geoghegan