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From: Valeria Kaplan <kaplan.valeria@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2023 10:57:18 +0100
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Subject: Re: RFC: a new try for an official community approved certification
To: Jaime Casanova <jcasanov@systemguards.com.ec>
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Thank you for bringing this topic to discussion, Jaime!

To add to Adrian's questions here are my 5 cents

Postgres is a community that consists of people from different companies
with variety of interests:
- Postgres/open source/community-focused interests
- personal interests
- their company's interests

To create a fully "unbiased" certification there is a need for a working
group whose interests would be fully aligned.
I must admit, I'm a bit pessimistic about a unified Postgres certification
as it would put people who would be working on it in a difficult situation
when they're serving all the abovementioned interests.


Valeria


On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 11:31=E2=80=AFPM Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklave=
r.com>
wrote:

> On 6/1/23 15:04, Jaime Casanova wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > At PgCon I mentioned a was going to create this thread so here we go:
> >
>
> >
> > So, having a certification made from a pool of validated
> > questions/answers don't only will help companies choosing trainings
> > but will in effect improve the quality of trainers.
> >
> > There are a lot of open questions yet, like where the exams will be
> > taken. In the community infrastructure? in the company's?
> >
> > but I guess we have still enough for start commenting.
> 1) Who oversees all of the above?
>
> 2) How are the questions and answers developed without leaking the
> information out to test takers?
>
> 3) Does core mean just the community Postgres?
>
> >
> > --
> > Jaime Casanova
> > Director de Servicios Profesionales
> > SYSTEMGUARDS - Consultores de PostgreSQL
> >
> >
>
> --
> Adrian Klaver
> adrian.klaver@aklaver.com
>
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Thank you for bringing this topic to discussion, Jaim=
e!</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To add to Adrian&#39;s =
questions here are my 5 cents<div><br></div><div>Postgres is a community th=
at consists of people from different=C2=A0companies with variety of interes=
ts:</div><div>- Postgres/open source/community-focused interests</div><div>=
- personal interests</div><div>- their company&#39;s interests</div><div><b=
r></div><div>To create a fully &quot;unbiased&quot; certification there is =
a need for a working group whose interests=C2=A0would be fully aligned.=C2=
=A0</div><div>I must admit, I&#39;m a bit pessimistic about a unified Postg=
res certification as it would put people who would be working on it in a di=
fficult situation when they&#39;re serving all the abovementioned interests=
.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Valeria</div><div><br></div></div=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Th=
u, Jun 1, 2023 at 11:31=E2=80=AFPM Adrian Klaver &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:adri=
an.klaver@aklaver.com">adrian.klaver@aklaver.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-le=
ft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 6/1/23 15:04, Jaime Casa=
nova wrote:<br>
&gt; Hi everyone,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; At PgCon I mentioned a was going to create this thread so here we go:<=
br>
&gt; <br>
<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; So, having a certification made from a pool of validated<br>
&gt; questions/answers don&#39;t only will help companies choosing training=
s<br>
&gt; but will in effect improve the quality of trainers.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; There are a lot of open questions yet, like where the exams will be<br=
>
&gt; taken. In the community infrastructure? in the company&#39;s?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; but I guess we have still enough for start commenting.<br>
1) Who oversees all of the above?<br>
<br>
2) How are the questions and answers developed without leaking the <br>
information out to test takers?<br>
<br>
3) Does core mean just the community Postgres?<br>
<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Jaime Casanova<br>
&gt; Director de Servicios Profesionales<br>
&gt; SYSTEMGUARDS - Consultores de PostgreSQL<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
<br>
-- <br>
Adrian Klaver<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:adrian.klaver@aklaver.com" target=3D"_blank">adrian.klave=
r@aklaver.com</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div></div>

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