Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kPovw-0000Bs-8v for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 06 Oct 2020 15:31:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kPovv-0004wJ-6o for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 06 Oct 2020 15:31:19 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kPovu-0004w5-TH for pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 06 Oct 2020 15:31:19 +0000 Received: from mail-pj1-x102c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::102c]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kPovr-0008K6-O9 for pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 06 Oct 2020 15:31:17 +0000 Received: by mail-pj1-x102c.google.com with SMTP id j8so1765214pjy.5 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2020 08:31:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=w3y17EpH3DCRwKmN2FQcJUEBjPnCQothJcA/YwN+0FA=; b=koaRQKIKSdLCwAfnIWqFl1uIJmVno2dK7GJnKKu/q5ODV6xgLh59SoW5/GAs8Otq7Q 2Dj9mumXbqTIkg/xFXs+qA/HspmDaKwsXR1IXTWTBPT1AlDOOALs1z0+fJLjW/ShgFLr ejT3fzPpR9eetD1i4ikjTk87XQ6qvs9Q496AoUc1e5PyzRc5YgM2LpmBINODfuyG2R1E AcaN7bUxBJrKJfheSJWP44JEbgnRMTCzbOAa/M7JzwtWTLJhGe+grlscGO5xNE70ZqHd No/LaLJvBkamwePDgidMBSGajCYTIfZhy2tMtX564M+p346kJtE1F0xMtgOZa1cYp8Tb ZiNg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=w3y17EpH3DCRwKmN2FQcJUEBjPnCQothJcA/YwN+0FA=; b=gKLjNmDTkz6/n3KusrZCQ1/sIpVVcLfRt5bgQHIyrXrtwSW/lAD+VMh99GEYdQYEhI 6kCk3J5ubt07eLGrp3i88DspQpRE/O7fGKbFUlHjgj+QAqWNMblhfytZxDZxhmBDU7hn l5q8hO0LsV72w+HunRnoRSX1L/MvqjcVO/+SR/J5NVtigJDzM2PXxpdCKomubfOCjmlL csU0VTruBVl33qsRjo7DBM4S7zsrZ1U/ygxosi+XfEJnjJmQc0byjY3AU4XFkQZfprDP BWNvOJxr9CaW5UlmjibmwpGrFAx52S70DJBS6jMb2FWPylqEePJaNpgudOplhxBI217P 3DJA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531CbjVQntuGK9UJpzVQxExJ8P6ouxZFlmyvE8f8XmU9MMpuKG5s JUuv2uW6v0zHRMlkl2N2WgvPFIziZo2lBuskmk8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy1NuRDTkZoy3wIYgQW4xiwoGmJi88/QH5Zq41Vd5Rqz3aeYT/v/KhBUBMvx1zpjyr/3Z5CNMOS3juSpaxQCGI= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:23d4:: with SMTP id md20mr2957086pjb.186.1601998273979; Tue, 06 Oct 2020 08:31:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <849ac033-fc3d-0c3c-8150-8b90c20e54c5@postgresql.org> In-Reply-To: <849ac033-fc3d-0c3c-8150-8b90c20e54c5@postgresql.org> From: Valeria Kaplan Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 16:31:02 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PostgreSQL 13 articles (German) To: "Jonathan S. Katz" Cc: "Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum" , pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000d2b1c05b1024a4b" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --0000000000000d2b1c05b1024a4b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I think that's a really good idea (compiling and linking to the press page [2]). Will definitely encourage people to spread the news. Few things that we could discuss are: - Whether we will include marketing articles by companies that use these news for self promotion? (my opinion is that we should try and only list pieces that are neutral, at least as much as possible) - What about opinion pieces (user stories etc.)? (I have mixed feelings about this one) - Do we also list syndications? (guess not) If helpful, I searched and found a few pieces in Russian (there wasn't much): https://www.opennet.ru/opennews/art.shtml?num=53774 there were a few syndications: https://www.linux.org.ru/news/opensource/15914558 https://unixforum.org/viewtopic.php?t=150537 https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B7_%D0%A1%D0%A3%D0%91%D0%94_PostgreSQL_13 There was also this overview in Russian at the recent #RuPostgres session https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLSpW6Ero30&feature=emb_title (a Russian speaking YouTube channel dedicated to Postgres news, features, events etc.) There was this blog post https://yandex.ru/turbo/dataenginer.ru/s/?pcgi=p%3D8121 (First experience with Postgres 13) Another small question, Who does the translation of the non-English press kit? Do we have native speakers checking it before the official release? (I'd be happy to help with Russian if needed, and I also noticed a few glitches with Hebrew version) On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 3:20 AM Jonathan S. Katz wrote: > On 10/5/20 7:14 PM, Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > After a brief discussion with Jonathan he suggested posting here the > > list of articles about the PostgreSQL 13 release in German. > > > > * https://www.admin-magazin.de/News/PostgreSQL-13-veroeffentlicht > > * > https://geoobserver.wordpress.com/2020/09/25/postgresql-released-v13/ > > * https://www.it-daily.net/shortnews/25558-neues-release-postgresql-13 > > * > https://www.robotron.de/unternehmen/aktuelles/blog/postgresql-13-verfuegbar > > * https://blog.v-gar.de/2020/09/postgresql-13-erschienen/ > > * > https://www.heise.de/news/Datenbank-PostgreSQL-13-optimiert-Indizes-und-Aufraeumarbeiten-4912302.html > > * > https://www.credativ.de/blog/postgresql/postgresql-13-erscheint-am-24092020 > > * > https://www.linux-magazin.de/news/postgresql-13-mit-mehr-performance/ > > * https://www.edv-nachrichten.de/meldung/dbms_postgresql_13_erschienen > > > > That's what I spotted over the course of the last week. > > Awesome, thanks for compiling! > > I wonder if we should start collecting and linking to media coverage > from the press kit[1], or perhaps as an offshoot to the press page?[2] > Historically, we've collected in on the -advocacy list, but it would > create a bit more permanence, plus added credibility for the project, if > we explicitly keep this links somewhere on the website? > > It may also encourage others to write about a PostgreSQL release. > > Jonathan > > [1] https://www.postgresql.org/about/press/presskit13/ > [2] https://www.postgresql.org/about/press/ > > --0000000000000d2b1c05b1024a4b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think that's a really good idea (compiling and = linking to the press page [2]). Will definitely encourage=C2=A0people to sp= read the news.

Few things that we could discuss ar= e:
  • Whether we will include marketing articles by companie= s that use these news for self promotion? (my opinion is that we should try= and only list pieces that are neutral, at least as much as possible)=C2=A0=
  • What about opinion pieces (user stories etc.)? (I have mixed feeli= ngs about this one)
  • Do we also list syndications? (guess not)
    • <= /ul>

If helpful, I searched and found a few pieces= in Russian (there wasn't much):
there were a few syndications:
https://www.= linux.org.ru/news/opensource/15914558
There was also this overview in Russian at the= recent #RuPostgres session=C2=A0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Du= LSpW6Ero30&feature=3Demb_title (a Russian speaking YouTube channel = dedicated to Postgres news, features, events etc.)
There was this= blog post https://yandex.ru/turbo/dataenginer.ru/s/?pcgi=3Dp%3D8121 (First = experience with Postgres 13)=C2=A0

Another small q= uestion,=C2=A0
Who does the translation=C2=A0of the non-English p= ress kit? Do we have native speakers checking it before the official releas= e? (I'd be happy to help with Russian if needed, and I also noticed a f= ew glitches with Hebrew version)


On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 3:20 = AM Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postg= resql.org> wrote:
On 10/5/20 7:14 PM, Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> After a brief discussion with Jonathan he suggested posting here the > list of articles about the PostgreSQL 13 release in German.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0* https://www.admin-= magazin.de/News/PostgreSQL-13-veroeffentlicht
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0* https://geoo= bserver.wordpress.com/2020/09/25/postgresql-released-v13/
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0* https://www.i= t-daily.net/shortnews/25558-neues-release-postgresql-13
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0* https:= //www.robotron.de/unternehmen/aktuelles/blog/postgresql-13-verfuegbar >=C2=A0 =C2=A0* https://blog.v-gar.de/2020= /09/postgresql-13-erschienen/
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0* https://www.heise.de/news/Datenbank-PostgreSQL-13-optim= iert-Indizes-und-Aufraeumarbeiten-4912302.html
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0* https:= //www.credativ.de/blog/postgresql/postgresql-13-erscheint-am-24092020 >=C2=A0 =C2=A0* https://www.= linux-magazin.de/news/postgresql-13-mit-mehr-performance/
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0* https://www.e= dv-nachrichten.de/meldung/dbms_postgresql_13_erschienen
>
> That's what I spotted over the course of the last week.

Awesome, thanks for compiling!

I wonder if we should start collecting and linking to media coverage
from the press kit[1], or perhaps as an offshoot to the press page?[2]
Historically, we've collected in on the -advocacy list, but it would create a bit more permanence, plus added credibility for the project, if we explicitly keep this links somewhere on the website?

It may also encourage others to write about a PostgreSQL release.

Jonathan

[1] https://www.postgresql.org/about/press/presski= t13/
[2] https://www.postgresql.org/about/press/

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