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Hi Shane,

Not to be contrarian, but I think this started without Oracle... all of thi=
s.

As far as I can tell, this string started with an awesome post from Justin =
Clift that didn't have anything to do with Oracle:
"Just stumbled over something I never thought I'd see. ;)

There's a PostgreSQL "Activity Book" now.  Like, those books
for kids:


https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/azure-database-for-postgresql/the-st=
ory-behind-the-activity-book-for-postgres/ba-p/3941372
[https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/512277i58=
AE528486E0E8B5/image-size/original?v=3Dv2&px=3D-1]<https://techcommunity.mi=
crosoft.com/t5/azure-database-for-postgresql/the-story-behind-the-activity-=
book-for-postgres/ba-p/3941372>
The Story Behind the Activity Book for Postgres<https://techcommunity.micro=
soft.com/t5/azure-database-for-postgresql/the-story-behind-the-activity-boo=
k-for-postgres/ba-p/3941372>
Read the story behind =93An Activity Book for Postgres=94. What inspired it=
s creation? How can you get your own copy?
techcommunity.microsoft.com


And it's from MS of all places (!!!).

I guess we can say PG truly has a wide audience these days,
it's being introduced to kids. ;)

+ Justin"

-Katie

________________________________
From: postmaster@shaneware.biz <postmaster@shaneware.biz> on behalf of Shan=
e Ambler <pgsql@Sheeky.Biz>
Sent: 06 October 2023 19:52
To: PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org>; Bruce Momjia=
n <bruce@momjian.us>
Subject: Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;)

Attention : courriel externe | external email

On 7/10/23 07:50, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Mon, Oct  2, 2023 at 03:15:24PM -0700, Robert Bernier wrote:
>> Yes it does ;-)
>>
>> https://blogs.oracle.com/cloud-infrastructure/post/oci-database-postgres
>
> My blog entry has more details:
>
>       https://momjian.us/main/blogs/pgblog/2023.html#September_29_2023
>

I think for some clarity ...

this started with "Oracle now supports PostgreSQL"

So "Oracle the company" does provide support for standard PostgreSQL
software running within an Oracle Cloud instance.

"Oracle the database" does not provide any support as far as
(non-standard) SQL compatibility with PostgreSQL schema designs or
functions/procedures etc


Then in the opposite direction, the EDB version of PostgreSQL does add
some level of SQL and cli support for running PostgreSQL as a
replacement for an Oracle DB backend.


--

Shane Ambler
pgSQL (at) Sheeky (dot) Biz




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he-activity-book-for-postgres/ba-p/3941372</a>
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ty-book-for-postgres/ba-p/3941372" style=3D"margin:0px;text-decoration:none=
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Read the story behind =93An Activity Book for Postgres=94. What inspired it=
s creation? How can you get your own copy?</div>
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techcommunity.microsoft.com</div>
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ropean)&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Rob=
oto, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, sans-serif; font-size: 14.6667px; color: r=
gb(36, 36, 36); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D"ContentPast=
ed0">
<br style=3D"font-family: &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI Web (West Eu=
ropean)&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Rob=
oto, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, sans-serif; font-size: 14.6667px; color: r=
gb(36, 36, 36); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D"ContentPast=
ed0">
<span style=3D"font-family: &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI Web (West =
European)&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, R=
oboto, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, sans-serif; font-size: 14.6667px; displa=
y: inline !important; color: rgb(36, 36, 36); background-color: rgb(255, 25=
5, 255);" class=3D"ContentPasted0">And
 it's from MS of all places (!!!).</span><br style=3D"font-family: &quot;Se=
goe UI&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI Web (West European)&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI&quot=
;, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Roboto, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, s=
ans-serif; font-size: 14.6667px; color: rgb(36, 36, 36); background-color: =
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ropean)&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Rob=
oto, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, sans-serif; font-size: 14.6667px; color: r=
gb(36, 36, 36); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D"ContentPast=
ed0">
<span style=3D"font-family: &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI Web (West =
European)&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, R=
oboto, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, sans-serif; font-size: 14.6667px; displa=
y: inline !important; color: rgb(36, 36, 36); background-color: rgb(255, 25=
5, 255);" class=3D"ContentPasted0">I
 guess we can say PG truly has a wide audience these days,</span><br style=
=3D"font-family: &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI Web (West European)&q=
uot;, &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Roboto, &quo=
t;Helvetica Neue&quot;, sans-serif; font-size: 14.6667px; color: rgb(36, 36=
, 36); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D"ContentPasted0">
<span style=3D"font-family: &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI Web (West =
European)&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, R=
oboto, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, sans-serif; font-size: 14.6667px; displa=
y: inline !important; color: rgb(36, 36, 36); background-color: rgb(255, 25=
5, 255);" class=3D"ContentPasted0">it's
 being introduced to kids. ;)</span><br style=3D"font-family: &quot;Segoe U=
I&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI Web (West European)&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, -a=
pple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Roboto, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, sans-s=
erif; font-size: 14.6667px; color: rgb(36, 36, 36); background-color: rgb(2=
55, 255, 255);" class=3D"ContentPasted0">
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ropean)&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Rob=
oto, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, sans-serif; font-size: 14.6667px; color: r=
gb(36, 36, 36); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D"ContentPast=
ed0">
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: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
<span style=3D"font-family: &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI Web (West =
European)&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, R=
oboto, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, sans-serif; font-size: 14.6667px; displa=
y: inline !important; color: rgb(36, 36, 36); background-color: rgb(255, 25=
5, 255);" class=3D"ContentPasted0">+
 Justin&quot;</span></div>
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: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
<span style=3D"font-family: &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI Web (West =
European)&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, R=
oboto, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, sans-serif; font-size: 14.6667px; displa=
y: inline !important; color: rgb(36, 36, 36); background-color: rgb(255, 25=
5, 255);" class=3D"ContentPasted0"><br>
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<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size=
: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
<span style=3D"font-family: &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI Web (West =
European)&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, R=
oboto, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, sans-serif; font-size: 14.6667px; displa=
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5, 255);" class=3D"ContentPasted0">-<span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Ar=
ial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: inline !important; co=
lor: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D"ContentP=
asted1">Katie</span></span></div>
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yle=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><b>From:</b> postmaster@shane=
ware.biz &lt;postmaster@shaneware.biz&gt; on behalf of Shane Ambler &lt;pgs=
ql@Sheeky.Biz&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 06 October 2023 19:52<br>
<b>To:</b> PostgreSQL Advocacy &lt;pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org&gt;;=
 Bruce Momjian &lt;bruce@momjian.us&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: What The... PostgreSQL &quot;Activity Book&quot; ;)</fo=
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<div class=3D"PlainText">Attention : courriel externe | external email<br>
<br>
On 7/10/23 07:50, Bruce Momjian wrote:<br>
&gt; On Mon, Oct&nbsp; 2, 2023 at 03:15:24PM -0700, Robert Bernier wrote:<b=
r>
&gt;&gt; Yes it does ;-)<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"https://blogs.oracle.com/cloud-infrastructure/post/oci-=
database-postgres" data-auth=3D"NotApplicable" id=3D"OWA9f314b54-cc69-709e-=
0927-10039c17bb3b" class=3D"OWAAutoLink">
https://blogs.oracle.com/cloud-infrastructure/post/oci-database-postgres</a=
><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; My blog entry has more details:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=3D"https://momjian.us/main=
/blogs/pgblog/2023.html#September_29_2023" data-auth=3D"NotApplicable" id=
=3D"OWA261acb9a-102e-5d80-1cde-3d3ff4ef71db" class=3D"OWAAutoLink">
https://momjian.us/main/blogs/pgblog/2023.html#September_29_2023</a><br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
I think for some clarity ...<br>
<br>
this started with &quot;Oracle now supports PostgreSQL&quot;<br>
<br>
So &quot;Oracle the company&quot; does provide support for standard Postgre=
SQL<br>
software running within an Oracle Cloud instance.<br>
<br>
&quot;Oracle the database&quot; does not provide any support as far as<br>
(non-standard) SQL compatibility with PostgreSQL schema designs or<br>
functions/procedures etc<br>
<br>
<br>
Then in the opposite direction, the EDB version of PostgreSQL does add<br>
some level of SQL and cli support for running PostgreSQL as a<br>
replacement for an Oracle DB backend.<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
<br>
Shane Ambler<br>
pgSQL (at) Sheeky (dot) Biz<br>
<br>
<br>
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