Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qp6Wg-004KbK-8y for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 07 Oct 2023 12:35:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qp6We-00GymC-2v for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 07 Oct 2023 12:35:21 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qp6Wd-00Gym4-R6 for pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 07 Oct 2023 12:35:20 +0000 Received: from mail-ej1-x62c.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::62c]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qp6Wb-000TKO-Pd for pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 07 Oct 2023 12:35:19 +0000 Received: by mail-ej1-x62c.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-9a6190af24aso538847766b.0 for ; Sat, 07 Oct 2023 05:35:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cybertec-at.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1696682115; x=1697286915; darn=lists.postgresql.org; h=mime-version:user-agent:content-transfer-encoding:references :in-reply-to:date:to:from:subject:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=KJ+/apMwyAHShS0puPnGf5p/SDavr6y+Prg71amiKH4=; b=Cg9dYoW/U5lYLdyJMuJk9PU77SPfuMGpBwt8jVW3QaQDVtjAl0tJw0cBLGNyUhX2R3 2ovYEE5xGDqary+zxPD87Foicg14CGj562WtppJ6foUstZzSjZ8I4xpftcONTg/fp0yp e18U1NTZO8vkFx9qs+Wn5f015pw1ER6noAw9AbkXSrQ9rBLudM7nvbBx7pPjzknidAJj NYXYUmnLwvUZt8wJ1Uss5Bhyo0RUHPa7cH/Np+5FXgXlAiagtJWL3OGuNlG4RKZ7HAML pfEOFgBaQOk8O3YZ5fFME/s4+ujDKA0VMDQnccQXF/m8UwZ6w4YX040tL2eutrpysvKG 2bPQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1696682115; x=1697286915; h=mime-version:user-agent:content-transfer-encoding:references :in-reply-to:date:to:from:subject:message-id:x-gm-message-state:from :to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=KJ+/apMwyAHShS0puPnGf5p/SDavr6y+Prg71amiKH4=; b=e5BXBfOAfMD+QbEu1MKXa1qJQjWHtzraK2GRjlxvrIj5RmRr0W3tQjdZR2WqP81bk0 Sd4fshUwpxc2ISLeJM7jaerTb6dFzjy+IcA5q9BnDS0qMxaj/9noXJOgAcl7nXyaEd1H VqJBQt8Ficvs7rggA1StrXW3fItNXj5ANmJQhoBhzC4aTfFFCP/mZImcJyXdLf8sLckI /Qa3WQTePmxGF9kLpmFVw1PDr23x4oTZgl1aLBfS4MzjWRq/J+DOEIbK9RYSbiuUTQj6 Gm+NFQV4V3oO9yp/MnLWMQP7ba7mHHOdQuETcDTK3SiRaCbID9OlwFGEz2rzSjEmDsaF 8Hfw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Ywr84kRB8B5gMU+kzjGen4APjEpuQu+omef3IoP/0lBP+VsDncA Fa/VM7vPQ/upysv/mg2FMiOTYQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFjyXGNoncA22Kp4eDjVQ8t0AGBRo5GvJBVazsjmwyJtQ3v0/2NCHGlVIVvlE9mki+0asht/g== X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:53da:b0:9b2:6c37:22ee with SMTP id p26-20020a17090653da00b009b26c3722eemr9766103ejo.21.1696682115313; Sat, 07 Oct 2023 05:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (62-46-250-130.adsl.highway.telekom.at. [62.46.250.130]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ss7-20020a170907038700b009a9fbeb15f5sm4179006ejb.46.2023.10.07.05.35.14 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 07 Oct 2023 05:35:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: What The... PostgreSQL "Activity Book" ;) From: Laurenz Albe To: Shane Ambler , PostgreSQL Advocacy , Bruce Momjian Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2023 14:35:14 +0200 In-Reply-To: <63d6585d-2fa2-d98e-cd23-ea93befa70f6@Sheeky.Biz> References: <1b1b487dc73b5e3fc9f4114dab057120@postgresql.org> <1772646209.284707.1696282887872@connect.xfinity.com> <1327013894.286432.1696284924702@connect.xfinity.com> <63d6585d-2fa2-d98e-cd23-ea93befa70f6@Sheeky.Biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.48.4 (3.48.4-1.fc38) MIME-Version: 1.0 List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Sat, 2023-10-07 at 10:22 +1030, Shane Ambler wrote: > So "Oracle the company" does provide support for standard PostgreSQL > software running within an Oracle Cloud instance. I don't know if they porvide support. Cloud hosting companies are usually not that interested in providing support. They want their customers to pay their monthly dues without generating any extra work for them. And what I have been told about the development of the quality of Oracle support in the last decade or so, support by Oracle doesn't sound exactly appealing (beside the fact that they probably know little about PostgreSQL)= . Yours, Laurenz Albe