Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kMSI0-0002YK-QI for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 08:44:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kMSHz-0006PN-7H for pgsql-www@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 08:44:11 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kMSHz-0006PE-2C for pgsql-www@lists.postgresql.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 08:44:11 +0000 Received: from mail-40140.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.140]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kMSHt-0005rL-4E for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 08:44:10 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2020 08:43:53 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail; t=1601196243; bh=TU0vnGGlvB5S+HLsGvdAqwu31W9nHh5hHlA0p9Sa58I=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=rE9oLdZhPxcuPNrHkzRZyArWvbxDsXLnjcynXpjEkms3CHLJjRzPkuAJ9JsVHkCzG 32vgsatavvdu7zJkKptM33R6O0jgwSC7KuBAqI8ap8HNDm3y5XGUfeOkRE/Z2LAy/F VCON+zl0jWYqqm7xVKMKB8sJqb8PC6SlrHtUYHog= To: Magnus Hagander From: ourdiaspora Cc: Christophe Pettus , Adrian Klaver , "David G. Johnston" , PostgreSQL WWW Reply-To: ourdiaspora Subject: Re: community social media Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <3zJlxGGcH9u-NPk1BNThllltugbD1eRCtoRvN_JzRMzZJqVJwqe1mwVFEIcbJr3wQWjrLkUjcAjMj-JpejCwECZBk8upNTSZWEHDL8xnYcQ=@protonmail.com> <7ORHQvPbaPqiIjtd1_g9e-0v7iBvYx9TvCrQHybmIJlbu9KAj4ZNzqsmDnNgHRgatX7u_X7Sh3q9N6iPH6-OM8z8IIUG4EU7QMRXLOVH03U=@protonmail.com> <8df21eff-4ac3-73bb-40e6-2a27fdacfbd5@aklaver.com> <818CB8EE-B7B9-4D68-9D80-B6447B84D8F2@thebuild.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM shortcircuit=no autolearn=disabled version=3.4.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on mailout.protonmail.ch List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Original Me= ssage =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 On Saturday, September 26, 2020 9:04 PM, Magnus Hagander wrote: > On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 9:25 PM Christophe Pettus wrot= e: > > > > > "Blacklist" is an increasingly disfavored term.=C2=A0 I think "block" o= r "disallow" are both reasonable alternatives. > > > > I'm moving this from -advocacy to -www, since that's a more appropriate= list to discuss the change. > > There is already work in progress to get this replaced. There are some ba= ckend considerations as well which is why it's not just a search/replace (a= nd not fixing those would make it inconsistent), but it's been on the list = for a while to get sorted out so it's definitely on people's radar. Interesting; suggests the efficiency of achieving as much equity as possibl= e at the first opportunity, to avoid the "replacement" requirement later. A= quick look at the mailing lists, "pg-women" existence also indicative of a= historical problem. At least acknowledgement to begin action is better tha= n denialism, so this is good to read.