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Katz" , PostgreSQL Advocacy References: From: Adrian Klaver In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On 5/14/22 11:53, Jonathan S. Katz wrote: > Hi, > > Attached is a draft of the release announcement for the PostgreSQL 15 > Beta 1 release. The goal of this announcement is to raise awareness > around many of the new features appearing in PostgreSQL 15 and to > encourage people to test. The success of the PostgreSQL 15 GA depends > heavily on people testing during the Beta period! > > Please review this announcement for feature description accuracy or if > there is something omitted that should be highlighted. Note that we > cannot highlight everything that is coming in PostgreSQL 15 (that is why > we have the release notes), but are aiming to showcase features that are > impactful and inspirational. > > Please provide feedback no later than 2022-05-19 0:00 AoE[1]. I think there needs to be mention that plpythonu and plpython2u are going away and there will only be plpython3u . Especially since in current docs it says: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/plpython-python23.html "The language named plpythonu implements PL/Python based on the default Python language variant, which is currently Python 2. (This default is independent of what any local Python installations might consider to be their “default”, for example, what /usr/bin/python might be.) The default will probably be changed to Python 3 in a distant future release of PostgreSQL, depending on the progress of the migration to Python 3 in the Python community." This is going to catch people by surprise. A heads up in the release announcement will mitigate that. > > Thanks, > > Jonathan > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anywhere_on_Earth -- Adrian Klaver adrian.klaver@aklaver.com