Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bDKNK-0001ME-KR for pgsql-bugs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 23:37:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bDKNK-0006mN-7I for pgsql-bugs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 23:37:34 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:1501:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bDKMd-00061Y-So for pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 23:36:52 +0000 Received: from smtprelay0095.b.hostedemail.com ([64.98.42.95] helo=smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bDKMb-000120-AL for pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 23:36:50 +0000 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (10.5.19.248.rfc1918.com [10.5.19.248]) by smtprelay02.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BC6D3978; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 23:36:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Session-Marker: 616C76686572726540616C76682E6E6F2D69702E6F7267 X-Spam-Summary: 40,2.5,0,,d41d8cd98f00b204,alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org,:::::,RULES_HIT:41:306:355:379:599:966:967:973:988:989:1260:1263:1277:1311:1312:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1519:1534:1541:1593:1594:1595:1596:1620:1711:1730:1747:1777:1792:2196:2199:2393:2525:2561:2564:2682:2685:2828:2859:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3352:3865:3866:3867:3868:3870:3871:3872:3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4250:4321:4385:4605:4659:5007:6261:8660:8957:8985:9025:9121:10004:10400:10471:10848:11026:11232:11256:11257:11473:11638:11658:11914:12043:12296:12438:12517:12519:12555:12660:12696:12698:12737:13069:13095:13148:13149:13230:13255:13311:13357:13439:13894:13895:14181:14721:14764:21080:21433,0,RBL:error,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:fn,MSBL:0,DNSBL:error,Custom_rules:0:0:0,LFtime:2000,LUA_SUMMARY:none X-HE-Tag: dad53_74d00572fde30 X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 2068 Received: from alvin.alvh.no-ip.org (unknown [216.155.90.98]) (Authenticated sender: alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org) by omf07.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 23:36:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by alvin.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 837A94BD; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 19:36:38 -0400 (CLT) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 19:36:38 -0400 From: Alvaro Herrera To: Andrew Gierth Cc: sean.hope@eroad.com, pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org Subject: Re: BUG #14195: "MultiXactId XXXXXX has not been created yet -- apparent wraparound" after upgrade from 9.2 Message-ID: <20160615233638.GA41007@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <87inxarrd6.fsf@news-spur.riddles.org.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Pg-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-bugs Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-bugs-owner@postgresql.org Andrew Gierth wrote: > This one came up on the IRC channel and I did some analysis there. > > What it seems to boil down to is that, faced with a tuple with a > pre-upgrade mxid, we get this call path: > > vacuum calls heap_prepare_freeze_tuple > > heap_prepare_freeze_tuple calls FreezeMultiXactId > (because HEAP_XMAX_IS_MULTI) > > FreezeMultiXactId checks if the mxid is older than the cutoff, but > because this is a pre-upgrade mxid it can be literally anything, and in > this case it's in the future not the past, so that check is skipped > > FreezeMultiXactId calls GetMultiXactIdMembers with allow_old=true > > GetMultiXactIdMembers checks for wraparound, but while it downgrades the > error to DEBUG1 if allow_old is true and the mxid is in the past, it > unconditionally errors if the mxid is in the future. I was in the middle of writing up this in another thread, and your analysis in spot on. https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/20160615233427.GA18976@alvherre.pgsql -- Álvaro Herrera http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services -- Sent via pgsql-bugs mailing list (pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-bugs