Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1drgTD-00078v-7o for pgsql-bugs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 08:22:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1drgTC-00023C-Qb for pgsql-bugs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 08:22:58 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1drgSU-0000io-PR for pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 08:22:14 +0000 Received: from smtprelay0178.b.hostedemail.com ([64.98.42.178] helo=smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1drgSN-0001UW-Nz for pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 08:22:14 +0000 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (10.5.19.248.rfc1918.com [10.5.19.248]) by smtprelay01.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF2E2D2A1C; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 08:22:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Session-Marker: 616C76686572726540616C76682E6E6F2D69702E6F7267 X-Spam-Summary: 50,0,0,,d41d8cd98f00b204,alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org,:::::::::::,RULES_HIT:41:355:379:599:800:960:965:966:967:968:973:988:989:1260:1277:1311:1312:1313:1314:1345:1359:1431:1437:1515:1516:1518:1519:1534:1543:1593:1594:1595:1596:1605:1711:1730:1747:1777:1792:2196:2198:2199:2200:2393:2525:2553:2560:2563:2682:2685:2828:2859:2899:2909:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3865:3866:3867:3868:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4250:4361:4362:4385:4390:4395:4605:5007:6119:6261:7903:8531:8603:8660:8957:9025:9040:9121:10004:10394:10400:10450:10455:10848:10946:11026:11232:11473:11658:11914:12438:12663:13148:13230:13439:13894:13895:14181:19904:19999:21080:21324:21627:30012:30054:30056:30080:30090:30091,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:0,DNSBL:none,Custom_rules:0:0:0,LFtime:2,LUA_SUMMARY:none X-HE-Tag: wave73_4c5f55b037410 X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 4290 Received: from alvin.alvh.no-ip.org (unknown [212.24.157.174]) (Authenticated sender: alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org) by omf02.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 08:22:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by alvin.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0D83DE10; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 10:22:03 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 10:22:03 +0200 From: Alvaro Herrera To: Michael Paquier Cc: Peter Geoghegan , "Wood, Dan" , "pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org" , Andres Freund , "Wong, Yi Wen" Subject: Re: Old row version in hot chain become visible after a freeze Message-ID: <20170912082203.gq5hutuveqlxpvuc@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170306-137-4415bd-dirty (1.8.0) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-bugs Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-bugs-owner@postgresql.org Michael Paquier wrote: > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Alvaro Herrera > wrote: > > (I also threw in a small sleep between heap_page_prune and > > HeapTupleSatisfiesVacuum while testing, just to widen the problem window > > to hopefully make any remaining problems more evident.) > > I am understanding that you mean heap_prepare_freeze_tuple here > instead of heap_page_prune. Hmm ... no, I meant adding a sleep after the page is pruned, before HeapTupleSatisfiesVacuum call that determines the action with regards to freezing. > > This turned up a few different failure modes, which I fixed until no > > further problems arose. With the attached patch, I no longer see any > > failures (assertion failures) or misbehavior (additional rows), in a few > > dozen runs, which were easy to come by with the original code. > > Well, you simply removed the assertion ;), and my tests don't show > additional rows as well, which is nice. Yeah, the assertion was wrong -- it was essentially assuming that the window above (between page pruning and HTSV) was of zero size, which is evidently what caused this whole disaster. > > The > > resulting patch, which I like better than the previously proposed idea > > of skipping the freeze, takes the approach of handling freeze correctly > > for the cases where the tuple still exists after pruning. > > That's also something I was wondering when looking at the first patch. > I am unfortunately not as skilled as you are with this area of the > code (this thread has brought its quantity of study!), so I was not > able to draw a clear line with what needs to be done. But I am clearly > +1 with this approach. Great, thanks. > > I also tweaked lazy_record_dead_tuple to fail with ERROR if the tuple > > cannot be recorded, as observed by Yi Wen. AFAICS that's not reachable > > because of the way the array is allocated, so an elog(ERROR) is > > sufficient. > > > > I regret my inability to turn the oneliner into a committable test case, > > but I think that's beyond what I can do for now. > > Here are some comments about your last patch. > > heap_tuple_needs_freeze looks to be still consistent with > heap_prepare_freeze_tuple even after what you have changed, which is > good. Thanks for confirming. > Using again the test of Dan at the top of the thread, I am seeing from > time to time what looks like garbage data in xmax, like that: > ctid | xmin | xmax | id > -------+------+------+---- > (0,1) | 620 | 0 | 1 > (0,7) | 625 | 84 | 3 > (2 rows) > [...] > ctid | xmin | xmax | id > -------+------+------+---- > (0,1) | 656 | 0 | 1 > (0,6) | 661 | 128 | 3 > (2 rows) I bet those are multixact values rather than garbage. You should see HEAP_XMAX_IS_MULTI in t_infomask in those cases, and the values should be near NextMultiXactId (make sure to checkpoint if you examine with pg_controldata; I think it's easier to obtain it from shmem. Or you could just use pg_get_multixact_members()). -- Álvaro Herrera https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services -- Sent via pgsql-bugs mailing list (pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-bugs