Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1drkVf-000153-VS for pgsql-bugs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 12:41:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1drkVf-0005nZ-I6 for pgsql-bugs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 12:41:47 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1drkVf-0005nP-3y for pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 12:41:47 +0000 Received: from smtprelay0172.b.hostedemail.com ([64.98.42.172] helo=smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1drkVZ-000751-88 for pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 12:41:46 +0000 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (10.5.19.248.rfc1918.com [10.5.19.248]) by smtprelay04.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B887B625; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 12:41:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Session-Marker: 616C76686572726540616C76682E6E6F2D69702E6F7267 X-Spam-Summary: 50,0,0,,d41d8cd98f00b204,alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org,:::::::::::,RULES_HIT:41:355:379:599:800:960:965:966:967:973:988:989:1260:1277:1311:1312:1313:1314:1345:1359:1431:1437:1515:1516:1518:1519:1534:1541:1593:1594:1595:1596:1711:1730:1747:1777:1792:2196:2199:2393:2525:2553:2560:2563:2682:2685:2828:2859:2909:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3353:3865:3866:3867:3868:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4361:4362:4385:4390:4395:4605:5007:6119:6261:8660:8957:9025:9121:10004:10400:10848:11026:11232:11473:11658:11914:12438:12663:13069:13148:13230:13311:13357:13439:13894:13895:14181:14764:21063:21080:21627:30018:30054:30056:30090:30091,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:0,DNSBL:none,Custom_rules:0:0:0,LFtime:2,LUA_SUMMARY:none X-HE-Tag: plot37_e36a017f345f X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 2659 Received: from alvin.alvh.no-ip.org (unknown [212.24.157.174]) (Authenticated sender: alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org) by omf02.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 12:41:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by alvin.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5FB9E738; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 14:41:36 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 14:41:36 +0200 From: Alvaro Herrera To: Michael Paquier Cc: Peter Geoghegan , "Wood, Dan" , "pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org" , Andres Freund , "Wong, Yi Wen" Subject: Re: Old row version in hot chain become visible after a freeze Message-ID: <20170912124136.kgasny22tjf7btdj@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170306-137-4415bd-dirty (1.8.0) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-bugs Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-bugs-owner@postgresql.org Michael Paquier wrote: > On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > Michael Paquier wrote: > >> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Alvaro Herrera > >> wrote: > >> > (I also threw in a small sleep between heap_page_prune and > >> > HeapTupleSatisfiesVacuum while testing, just to widen the problem window > >> > to hopefully make any remaining problems more evident.) > >> > >> I am understanding that you mean heap_prepare_freeze_tuple here > >> instead of heap_page_prune. > > > > Hmm ... no, I meant adding a sleep after the page is pruned, before > > HeapTupleSatisfiesVacuum call that determines the action with regards to > > freezing. > > Well, I have tested both. With the test case of Dan adding a sleep > after calling HeapTupleSatisfiesVacuum() helped in increasing the > window. Of course feel free to correct me. OK, great, thanks for testing. > > I bet those are multixact values rather than garbage. You should see > > HEAP_XMAX_IS_MULTI in t_infomask in those cases, and the values should > > be near NextMultiXactId (make sure to checkpoint if you examine with > > pg_controldata; I think it's easier to obtain it from shmem. Or you > > could just use pg_get_multixact_members()). > > Yes, you're right. That's the case. So I guess that I don't have much > complains about the patch as presented. Thanks for the confirmation. -- Álvaro Herrera https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services -- Sent via pgsql-bugs mailing list (pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-bugs