Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m2zci-0002Hq-8H for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 17:21:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m2zcA-0002fL-8p for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 17:21:06 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m2zcA-0002et-17 for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 17:21:06 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m2zc2-0004Mr-NY for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 17:21:04 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 16CHKu9k2984423 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 13:20:56 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org Subject: printf %s with NULL pointer (was Re: BUG #17098: Assert failed on composing an error message when adding a type to an extension being dropped) In-reply-to: <2468663.1626017338@sss.pgh.pa.us> References: <17098-b960f3616c861f83@postgresql.org> <2468663.1626017338@sss.pgh.pa.us> Comments: In-reply-to Tom Lane message dated "Sun, 11 Jul 2021 11:28:58 -0400" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <2984421.1626110456.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 13:20:56 -0400 Message-ID: <2984422.1626110456@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk [ moved from -bugs list for more visibility ] I wrote: > However, that root issue is converted from a relatively minor bug into > a server crash because snprintf.c treats a NULL pointer passed to %s > as a crash-worthy error. I have advocated for that behavior in the > past, but I'm starting to wonder if it wouldn't be wiser to change > over to the glibc-ish behavior of printing "(null)" or the like. > It seems like we've long since found all the interesting bugs that > the assert-or-crash behavior could reveal, and now we're down to > weird corner cases where its main effect is to weaken our robustness. I did a little more thinking about this. I believe the strongest argument for having snprintf.c crash on NULL is that it keeps us from relying on having more-forgiving behavior in case we're using platform-supplied *printf functions (cf commit 0c62356cc). However, that is only relevant for code that's meant to go into pre-v12 branches, since we stopped using libc's versions of these functions in v12. So one plausible way to approach this is to say that we should wait until v11 is EOL and then change it. However, that feels overly conservative to me. I doubt that anyone is *intentionally* relying on *printf not crashing on a NULL pointer. For example, in the case that started this thread: if (OidIsValid(oldExtension)) ereport(ERROR, (errcode(ERRCODE_OBJECT_NOT_IN_PREREQUISITE_STATE), errmsg("%s is already a member of extension \"%s\"", getObjectDescription(&object, false), get_extension_name(oldExtension)))); the problem is failure to consider the possibility that get_extension_name could return NULL due to a just-committed concurrent DROP EXTENSION. I'm afraid there are a lot of corner cases like that still lurking. So my feeling about this is that switching snprintf.c's behavior would produce some net gain in robustness for v12 and up, while not making things any worse for the older branches. I still hold to the opinion that we've already flushed out all the cases of passing NULL that we're likely to find via ordinary testing. Thoughts? regards, tom lane