Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mG2SE-0001j7-9z for pgsql-bugs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 17 Aug 2021 17:00:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mG2SD-00044A-12 for pgsql-bugs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 17 Aug 2021 17:00:45 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mG2SB-000442-Sk for pgsql-bugs@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 17 Aug 2021 17:00:44 +0000 Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mG2S8-000526-Bd for pgsql-bugs@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 17 Aug 2021 17:00:43 +0000 Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CEC95C01BF; Tue, 17 Aug 2021 13:00:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imap21 ([10.202.2.71]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 17 Aug 2021 13:00:37 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eulerto.com; h= mime-version:message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:from:to:cc :subject:content-type; s=fm2; bh=jngLaQIvVPstnGmSF6rhBTYz40xAsfG gxQ6it2bTB6c=; b=SH9FKXHmlBjDKOrLbXPZVQr7BaKfNgem48Op50n2wOrp0iN JESNnZchMpKOMwCpRkv3uc9B5JUKvKbDRijrQVrMwkXNQ7LsLErTek4GrklBIn97 Pej54MSxSRwjC3MvGiegOuIW9ysU9Qlapqn/6bQFVEikCvSUtKNBUZwUlCpkdSI0 evLjgvTV0ns+DlXaO+BpzcLk6h/K20cy4tBqp6hpG0WyJnYxqQ+ZdOSYvm6WN2Q1 th6jvvGR4iKhq6eoZ12yH63R8iHxjton9X1sT7afjDENL5NxPtw+1mbZkLqBXLCq wW1dX0mpL65vOIjChFDAEPCfFZ6jy/SB1//YhZw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=jngLaQ IvVPstnGmSF6rhBTYz40xAsfGgxQ6it2bTB6c=; b=Gk4HoE4DCy2Vna+mv9aEiJ lk9EMExeYbT+PRQsAXLIA8CN551oFIiMcn2hl239vIR5KbxEciiS1B4BqAMHQVsK 4FvdkP+W5fhmtK21dB7aXfL/B07CsfYr5uCtr5hLSWdObMM5z9xzfbJA8hzEjgHd xO7MAYKd5XQmBd35FrBAK3+eZm12cgYuBCcMiF7uNVpcuOmxPBq0voiEb4+AqZ+a +IlEcPJ8fmGmpSDI9hoT16ACKpOPXkRN43Mr56140IcVnYSQVtEbZrJR9myUw+Pd skysB9bgkXbnL7dZtmqvoIAWbwcPQpEfpl7Z8+v6g9dIrlv5BImWTO7gYWVHyjlw == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvtddrleefgddutdekucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepofgfggfkjghffffhvffutgesrgdtreerreerjeenucfhrhhomhepfdfguhhl vghrucfvrghvvghirhgrfdcuoegvuhhlvghrsegvuhhlvghrthhordgtohhmqeenucggtf frrghtthgvrhhnpeeiffdtgfdvgefhgefgtdejtdfffedvgfeuffegtdfffeduieeuvdeh gfegveelkeenucffohhmrghinhepvghnthgvrhhprhhishgvuggsrdgtohhmnecuvehluh hsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepvghulhgvrhesvghu lhgvrhhtohdrtghomh X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 7D0FB51C0061; Tue, 17 Aug 2021 13:00:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.5.0-alpha0-1118-g75eff666e5-fm-20210816.002-g75eff666 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <429f6e0e-31eb-4741-8bf8-e9e827b3076d@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: <17148-b5087318e2b04fc6@postgresql.org> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2021 14:00:15 -0300 From: "Euler Taveira" To: "Daniel Gustafsson" Cc: chenjq.jy@fujitsu.com, pgsql-bugs@lists.postgresql.org, "Julien Rouhaud" Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_BUG_#17148:_About_--no-strict-names_option_and_--quiet_opt?= =?UTF-8?Q?ion_of_pg=5Famcheck_command?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bc9e7525797947aab3496625da4354be List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk --bc9e7525797947aab3496625da4354be Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 17, 2021, at 12:57 PM, Daniel Gustafsson wrote: > > On 17 Aug 2021, at 16:53, Euler Taveira wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021, at 8:06 AM, Daniel Gustafsson wrote: >=20 > >> ..I think we should reconcile them with > >> something like this while in here and fixing things anyways: >=20 > > I suggest that it should be a message that we already use in another= binaries > > such as "do not print any output, except for errors". >=20 > Well, problem is that it=E2=80=99s plain not true. If you pass --quie= t --verbose you > will get a lot of output, albeit less than if not using --quiet. Cons= istency > with other tools is obviously good, but only when it=E2=80=99s correct= IMO. Indeed, it is not a good design. It should be one option --verbose that increases the verbosity according to a number or an enum value. --verbos= e=3D0 means "quiet". However, that ship has sailed. -- Euler Taveira EDB https://www.enterprisedb.com/ --bc9e7525797947aab3496625da4354be Content-Type: text/html;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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On Tue, Aug 17, 2021, at 12:57 PM, Daniel Gustafsson wrot= e:
> On = 17 Aug 2021, at 16:53, Euler Taveira <euler@eulerto.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 17= , 2021, at 8:06 AM, Daniel Gustafsson wrote:

>> ..I think we should reconcile them with
>>= ; something like this while in here and fixing things anyways:
=

> I suggest that it should be a message that we a= lready use in another binaries
> such as "do not print = any output, except for errors".

Well, probl= em is that it=E2=80=99s plain not true.  If you pass --quiet --verb= ose you
will get a lot of output, albeit less than if not = using --quiet.  Consistency
with other tools is obvio= usly good, but only when it=E2=80=99s correct IMO.
Indeed, it is not a good design. It should be one option --verbose= that
increases the verbosity according to a number or an = enum value. --verbose=3D0
means "quiet". However, that shi= p has sailed.


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Eule= r Taveira
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