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Except that RETURNING doesn't work at all in that > case, unless I make it a delete+insert or also introduce a helper > view, but even with the view I can only get out the old xmin, not the > new. For now I have applied your patch on HEAD as of d39762b8c79a, qualifying as a life improvement thing with a better message. I have never really seen somebody complain about that limitation, as well.. -- Michael --478jnFiZ/E8H5dS3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEG72nH6vTowiyblFKnvQgOdbyQH0FAmqHhVoACgkQnvQgOdby QH2MXA/7BY1SDoD2OCVV4QJHfz7MKXJByA+UTVgOs0MuqCWuTaRWdhN0kGZbhw9b VDx6bDG5mlZmg+uOlsub0HYshRfzBjmCzCKT7xxcg+IinQhpy07j8OYdQRsTq8Q9 9ph9PC/FgK6/mAjuzsLgaOn2foF3kso1aDhqJ6/yyio7s4U+ArBAykoyeTZcGyuC rcPlnMuM48Qp7Ld48V4fhBg3dgmzo+RkXZW4Hf2q4eS689aYP9y22CIQF6TqysdX ge22GV083wPXmRlARZSfcVxBsYMcjT0FV1bjsiCaI1JZwl7nUwGNkwjH/1cT3jHu yHNuAX85JxmqkhMy2mcD8z+Pvjk4a4YpjlwxZm1K5E+LYKLHmikW3clglKjxaaf/ BdvOKu4IadKes558UYYH2kUZcjzuMJvD8wLXjuuAGXiCQNRbM2i4Y0H0cX8kxrGU ynRA3eVHZjfOh/IpVgwpnC1X6o0O+qAqlThAKPTZHUlH0pYBRkm9rH5UT6rNOe+N a/PIpZ7+CSJHv1M6snRK2VKTwjyU1SmaHUNK2Q7B2Z02lXqIihIGJ3c15IgaHdQO iStEHfdgI3yLFbVDNp/sbFwTw2Rif8tpUVDJpBskD3LnR84sX/i6Iro+gIeiq2oJ vPIqRhSA9l4uJlqwvFXrKRtYaVJuXZyXzy89I3ckVy6AYIL9L0s= =8zSv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --478jnFiZ/E8H5dS3--