Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pbS1H-0003e0-7T for pgsql-committers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2023 20:10:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pbS1G-0000b3-5Q for pgsql-committers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2023 20:10:14 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pbS1F-0000ZR-UV for pgsql-committers@lists.postgresql.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2023 20:10:13 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pbS18-0003wm-AA for pgsql-committers@lists.postgresql.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2023 20:10:12 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 32CKA2mI1605454; Sun, 12 Mar 2023 16:10:02 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Andrew Dunstan cc: Jeff Davis , Peter Eisentraut , pgsql-committers@lists.postgresql.org Subject: Re: pgsql: Add standard collation UNICODE In-reply-to: <98810acf-c2ea-ed90-2b5f-c8cfa6c1654f@dunslane.net> References: <582e43d0a814e09c62ea662dd851f43bfc137a16.camel@j-davis.com> <231acf388c37597a9f0f8a3af9a899df99c28e1d.camel@j-davis.com> <1253026.1678567661@sss.pgh.pa.us> <98810acf-c2ea-ed90-2b5f-c8cfa6c1654f@dunslane.net> Comments: In-reply-to Andrew Dunstan message dated "Sun, 12 Mar 2023 16:04:55 -0400" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <1605452.1678651802.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2023 16:10:02 -0400 Message-ID: <1605453.1678651802@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Andrew Dunstan writes: > On 2023-03-11 Sa 15:47, Tom Lane wrote: >> In general, I see no good reason for our regression tests to be making >> assumptions about exactly how ICU's root locale behaves, so I'd suggest >> just lobotomizing this test case so it doesn't depend on upper/lower >> sort order. > Yeah, I think we've found enough cases in old still not dead distros to > make this reasonable. I see topminnow is showing the symptom too, so it's now pretty clear that this was once a common behavior. I dug in ICU's release notes and couldn't find anything about it, but they must've changed something somewhen. regards, tom lane