Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hcwTC-00060X-KK for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 18:35:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hcwT9-0007o7-A5 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 18:35:03 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hcwT9-0007o0-0p for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 18:35:03 +0000 Received: from tamriel.snowman.net ([96.255.250.162]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hcwT6-0000jC-90 for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 18:35:02 +0000 Received: by tamriel.snowman.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B29E35F7AE; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 14:34:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 14:34:58 -0400 From: Stephen Frost To: Andres Freund Cc: Andrew Gierth , Tom Lane , Christoph Berg , PostgreSQL Hackers Subject: Re: UCT (Re: pgsql: Update time zone data files to tzdata release 2019a.) Message-ID: <20190617183458.GG2480@tamriel.snowman.net> References: <65800.1559662051@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20190605084735.GC15829@msg.df7cb.de> <24452.1560285699@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20190614095546.GA15107@msg.df7cb.de> <26948.1560517875@sss.pgh.pa.us> <87ef3w3u8a.fsf@news-spur.riddles.org.uk> <7114.1560539536@sss.pgh.pa.us> <875zp74zpf.fsf@news-spur.riddles.org.uk> <871rzv4yes.fsf@news-spur.riddles.org.uk> <20190617173943.z3ttxqenbcwrlag4@alap3.anarazel.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ppsrYgrxaSr1H4kc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190617173943.z3ttxqenbcwrlag4@alap3.anarazel.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --ppsrYgrxaSr1H4kc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings, * Andres Freund (andres@anarazel.de) wrote: > On 2019-06-14 23:14:09 +0100, Andrew Gierth wrote: > > So here is my current proposed fix. >=20 > Before pushing a commit that's controversial - and this clearly seems to > somewhat be - it'd be good to give others a heads up that you intend to > do so, so they can object. Rather than just pushing less than 24h later, > without a warning. Seems like that would have meant a potentially very late commit to avoid having a broken (for some value of broken anyway) point release (either with new code, or with reverting the timezone changes previously committed), which isn't great either. In general, I agree with you, and we should try to give everyone time to discuss when something is controversial, but this seems like it was at least a bit of a tough call. Thanks, Stephen --ppsrYgrxaSr1H4kc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJdB91SAAoJEO1sijiDR2RVECYP/3UZgnCKKWWdSbjK6MRHVVqI nmzTvFIi5onTPQbrUB5yMLQhgMtp/HQYDs7d2+UJ++9Y6iTRq8MeR84TZZch41Hl PynEt7ssY4klDWYF1u4CwcBm059daPLIxV/fkRrQhBzVFfXech5I9nYHQel9jEQN UMb2vLeHlMFpcPgqFNzNnCQ+ZuzBhxtNtGNB414yt1Tan9eGarap1uYxYMHWxTNa Q1F5HVpG5mwYwR62N3nnQ/NdppqjWOkQFkg9I5VsFLudQVS4Pb3j5Vop52UScjoW rv1Szr9WNW1j/FgN+KEsDVmARfLLQCgo9aw7j90vDggjyj93tlB66WkpRcI4nTRt VI/Yk4HOo81FAdDv+A9VK3YOinTNq8xNKDBJmqZlGRbcqBhhIS0AGBvPy1SY2RLS KbCty6X0UvpgwGpDsFShI2dgrHlvhOz7NllK1l+LnYviK5G7sacqu8BYSw4wtQ41 xq9aesLmUZ0A4dGx/Th15TptcrFPzJxwGFKbewLBTEQMmApHg7KW6SIEZoVFJv+X gaEVw0xRBHCg24oTSlWwQ2rEfYc0d8ZXP/ziI7wkhef0N9a1wg/VNOpsD4XZKqnV grEf9d/gJ8ccZcQUTRqOeKu5hikaRw637BDlFaxbYwT/euBdES2Mzt72kvqBj/zr aoK5+wYDV2lgtPGGEwbs =uEUt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ppsrYgrxaSr1H4kc--