Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hcwYu-0006F6-5O for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 18:41:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hcwYs-0007vH-R2 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 18:40:58 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hcwYs-0007uo-Ho for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 18:40:58 +0000 Received: from tamriel.snowman.net ([2001:470:e38f::11]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hcwYq-0000n4-EB for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 18:40:58 +0000 Received: by tamriel.snowman.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9FC955F7B0; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 14:40:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 14:40:53 -0400 From: Stephen Frost To: Andres Freund Cc: Andrew Gierth , Tom Lane , Christoph Berg , PostgreSQL Hackers Subject: Re: UCT (Re: pgsql: Update time zone data files to tzdata release 2019a.) Message-ID: <20190617184053.GI2480@tamriel.snowman.net> References: <24452.1560285699@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20190614095546.GA15107@msg.df7cb.de> <26948.1560517875@sss.pgh.pa.us> <87ef3w3u8a.fsf@news-spur.riddles.org.uk> <7114.1560539536@sss.pgh.pa.us> <875zp74zpf.fsf@news-spur.riddles.org.uk> <871rzv4yes.fsf@news-spur.riddles.org.uk> <20190617173943.z3ttxqenbcwrlag4@alap3.anarazel.de> <20190617183458.GG2480@tamriel.snowman.net> <20190617183828.hj7ci362zbxd4nax@alap3.anarazel.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NBo+v+z9rqUBJl3+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190617183828.hj7ci362zbxd4nax@alap3.anarazel.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --NBo+v+z9rqUBJl3+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings, * Andres Freund (andres@anarazel.de) wrote: > On 2019-06-17 14:34:58 -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > > * Andres Freund (andres@anarazel.de) wrote: > > > On 2019-06-14 23:14:09 +0100, Andrew Gierth wrote: > > > > So here is my current proposed fix. > > >=20 > > > Before pushing a commit that's controversial - and this clearly seems= to > > > somewhat be - it'd be good to give others a heads up that you intend = to > > > do so, so they can object. Rather than just pushing less than 24h lat= er, > > > without a warning. > >=20 > > Seems like that would have meant a potentially very late commit to avoid > > having a broken (for some value of broken anyway) point release (either > > with new code, or with reverting the timezone changes previously > > committed), which isn't great either. >=20 > > In general, I agree with you, and we should try to give everyone time to > > discuss when something is controversial, but this seems like it was at > > least a bit of a tough call. >=20 > Hm? All I'm saying is that Andrew's email should have included something > to the effect of "Due to the upcoming release, I'm intending to push and > backpatch the attached fix in ~20h". Ah, ok, I agree that would have been good to do. Of course, hindsight being 20/20 and all that. Something to keep in mind for the future though. Thanks, Stephen --NBo+v+z9rqUBJl3+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJdB961AAoJEO1sijiDR2RVYPcP/jWPXPSJn3Urphx0HzFHeGnv A9Tc/vL35gN7ZIhzkpSpCjte7eOzr9cEAO/8Hs81m+TgYLulbaztIVw6XnMvVENK Al6MrH5zk/KpjBz3T7kSYo80VMKvUHieItd6XsohILqV1tmEsbBeB2FwsRXQTmPa rlUWm1tXdttjCt8nUhj1/lApFrNh/IDY168BwsRVmE3z29eiz+VSvvcs2z7bscBT UVe32L+h/gn77ux0PSUlRO1Zjg5jE9eGE1fPn4bSBvKdOPT0VQ+U6asWwgl8PIIX pMxF13jIClDsA+QsZ/CoJM37m3Rr4o8ZOvccKjCL6vUfRLXZ41fQ4GfNpnOwyClN sZAcZJCoFY7aoclie13V7ov17XULW/3y4v+HHJXBg3mPX5+FDZSWDvMe7wG/OvDV XwwcgaaTzIuV0xOlk2IgjUD0ds9UoaQlo7ARFOtqWSapkkVqm8R2FELB1UI92tp+ gZ6O8mlc43a1qqwW8LCrgJACqaIlWZnoY+BgPesFEI9jbzD4Yd6f3+XHuGH7nB/S n4QuqAIm2ovBVv6kX7JL8QMNK0RnsUIlg6fuRDh+oRHZoDk4LyCGnLyKU50RNSwc Z/y2M1HAbY9kYSYNibnQajrsCICFL255mbxueD2i+TAvCZaNUj7USRwORS9HtE77 8A7EMyPhr8QggR6CLbKP =2Ydi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NBo+v+z9rqUBJl3+--