Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1he0q1-00046j-Cn for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 17:27:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1he0pz-0006Na-7J for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 17:27:03 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1he0py-0006NS-Uj for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 17:27:02 +0000 Received: from tamriel.snowman.net ([2001:470:e38f::11]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1he0pw-0001Iw-Gk for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 17:27:02 +0000 Received: by tamriel.snowman.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8FE445F7AA; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 13:26:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 13:26:58 -0400 From: Stephen Frost To: Andres Freund Cc: Robert Haas , Tom Lane , Andrew Gierth , Christoph Berg , PostgreSQL Hackers Subject: Re: UCT (Re: pgsql: Update time zone data files to tzdata release 2019a.) Message-ID: <20190620172658.GC2480@tamriel.snowman.net> References: <871rzv4yes.fsf@news-spur.riddles.org.uk> <20190617173943.z3ttxqenbcwrlag4@alap3.anarazel.de> <20190617183458.GG2480@tamriel.snowman.net> <20190617183828.hj7ci362zbxd4nax@alap3.anarazel.de> <20190617184053.GI2480@tamriel.snowman.net> <25314.1560980148@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20190620125211.GX2480@tamriel.snowman.net> <20190620161400.6wtuybv64ihnfy6d@alap3.anarazel.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nw8osqCVxPB7/Z45" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190620161400.6wtuybv64ihnfy6d@alap3.anarazel.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --nw8osqCVxPB7/Z45 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings, * Andres Freund (andres@anarazel.de) wrote: > On 2019-06-20 12:02:30 -0400, Robert Haas wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 8:52 AM Stephen Frost wrot= e: > > > I don't want to come across as implying that I'm saying what was done > > > was 'fine', or that we shouldn't be having this conversation, I'm just > > > trying to figure out how we can frame it in a way that we learn from = it > > > and work to improve on it for the future, should something like this > > > happen again. > >=20 > > I agree that it's a difficult situation. I do kind of wonder whether > > we were altogether overreacting. If we had shipped it as it was, > > what's the worst thing that would have happened? >=20 > I think it's not good, but also nothing particularly bad came out of > it. I don't think we should try to set up procedures for future > occurances, and rather work/plan on that not happening very often. Agreed. Thanks, Stephen --nw8osqCVxPB7/Z45 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJdC8HiAAoJEO1sijiDR2RVUpkQAJ+ino7mRnayp/hWTDBLMi7g FW7HiQakfZ3Yzy1zUQulQ+lErYesNkZPckneAkqjqpdAMYWeZ9PXT7ziVdtBDVQX QN3i5+mpSRMb9CCoxBvRAuREhHvwrg2bkfVVvhoaYs5KyhfjzV7/5vPtFTICtIIU r/mvmroHSu2+VTtsmI9AXgs43VF8lr6V6kU3ggrxN6zfoh0WgIlHyAUzGXyuX8LH N04k9GBpH3vN23FDUm64KtkliqI3Q4zITiwm6/ZmJ6wnaSNiW46Z4V0VHndScShv x74FDqxN8X5WqX26sHUv49JadBnsk5OhVkdXHAzdk3sM4Wg7rI5UeFqHXAgcyA8t RnXOtzjHrJOwOVvsxHrr/2fFP+Arq9yDrZtpZ1N/7ac9D4x1cqJ4bx9MV8swKSuf BEIt7FkujOtM9erl8cJtr2IyJiZSOYI8NOewe2wwBe4NOMuZSoyrynGI0GbZrSWn XsY9jcNSnYYv2RpjnuY8bYo6PoPndJEgBhzlfbuwDlrZw1FQsJfQdfptRklXYncu maAFz4taL/axadV+mHO3aB3NVLoID+deEgOwZ7pV1zmiTldhz89frb756yUELSIW U77Z5+v0aYGriYTNZv4Z9lO3GPMWRqyHC5rq2KsX75ybOhhu2BlpFyQ8GANDG7Ov zB99wBvxEpUi+kB/cyg2 =ZPml -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nw8osqCVxPB7/Z45--