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([2605:a601:a6b0:500::1cb]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 6a1803df08f44-899b8556c24sm1960306d6.11.2026.02.24.14.49.34 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 24 Feb 2026 14:49:34 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------nnhkxN6wIhs8tLsqxRLXE301" Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2026 17:49:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: pgsql: libpq: Grease the protocol by default From: Andrew Dunstan To: Tom Lane , Jacob Champion Cc: Jelte Fennema-Nio , pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org References: <3626145.1771885089@sss.pgh.pa.us> <3635497.1771889682@sss.pgh.pa.us> <3797860.1771893905@sss.pgh.pa.us> <3864574.1771898936@sss.pgh.pa.us> Content-Language: en-US Autocrypt: addr=andrew@dunslane.net; keydata= xsBNBE7KWFkBCAClridxur2AIc7eW2AR7izbfp3EnNefie2HbLF0izW5Ik5UjX2HBXBx4syI gY6b0ugohXrr274+baoAlvSbq6cAoQuEVrk5IZFzt20b1Xkx65FwGSEj526yiKLocqkJceSq Xr9xcA5SGY+FZv441chh5SU92v4q6z+6LPpoHOh97ptAVXZYNTtU0LevyvD5lja0TzbvJm6C eFXitJfnm1pLEr0DGJCR/iUOl/N62Kh4855zZC7NHIjQHPOvV5Stz/l5ilDhvGVk+xkXFPys SjZoUr1rXhYLpiyi5sR0X9FHXT0KnGuz1F5ERO7ZTLSSQ6fJwPj6gOk9K+vvoKvoeql5ABEB AAHNJEFuZHJldyBEdW5zdGFuIDxhbmRyZXdAZHVuc2xhbmUubmV0PsLAlwQTAQgAQQIbAwIX gAIZAQULCQgHAwUVCgkICwUWAgMBAAIeBRYhBOQ+WEYd/Hy/RGkVpZn6f8tZ/DuBBQJoGNGd BQkdEO8nAAoJEJn6f8tZ/DuBq74H/jkTR4Zi3stbw+xC7v2u3QozssK7MYPL2AsVfh7OealS h182fiWXpfvmmAB7WUHbhk9GC2RAOnHI/2d2jgKaMLAHsGYOT0YopTVIwRY43fCw/mK67yxc wmDcX+zyKfLaivNbf5A7QPLNwda98bEAMSJ8Sn652Uc6cA8t3uKGsVzbRBQOoYzjgvBCfSrE 9ql3PDNg0l4BfAqabd2f70ZUm9VAMEPrgv/v2xI7M2XiL4g5BVmqLCOwxLM8RMCotCuoweUr VO43DeBCIDwLxotMJKvGWDjBzQYlU1NPUAtNcz/gN9ITUe1VUGjyvGj4u1lxBOcQQUw7l1+T 5moZ4iZxXzvOwE0ETspYWQEIANGc4zQULOxhbqO2dyD51YhqCNRmm9oKWaqf+wmW4tpDe/VV cxAnNizd4LWCHfzpb5cHAtGkOPePMfzWVf6nvdF7d3eglbtf59+zG7O7llV0xSSoFiieQBsr GvqDInXYX/4mRRXMtyhM353/tixC9RWLs1oofyYmCPPXXY7h9R7en3B8BoVrRFcdzlIY/NFN hFGW/9dkEiGjgna2Rk6e15kln4ZvFBWUg23p93w/pqXcxY6+k/8TEk+C4R+M6w7o2PLGOjdZ +kPiUcw5H85zf/yZJwQXzisXaNduwWB6Vads9YC9dj6kPR1c4VGRqAaYL++LAEOqrlvm2Tvq QqZRtnEAEQEAAcLAfAQYAQgAJgIbDBYhBOQ+WEYd/Hy/RGkVpZn6f8tZ/DuBBQJoGNI2BQkd EODdAAoJEJn6f8tZ/DuBfw0IAKTsfD40teP/pp+bsLLMSxPXUYrrprTj7WFB5v61p6dkpSr/ qXmMlyahdxQFaPmfVgVirB1Vk/kHiWNnnGjfUV9nB2Zg9LI0Xb9/ts3LsUiRWXzG3tkMY6XL vsVOxW4XFRND9l2q+WW93aZ1DZl+fqWfYgMvsusFRhmGFOKTRfKPta2Pkv+AhA24N4+PrR5p bU4k2MO8PAGiK8eaYKGFG1bHKuAvoDoF7WXJ3FHxuWqLnKEt4dfOLm5pAe3zq1Lt6q8azT9i QWGpSAK5vQUWQHBHpiDjdPeqKZ6HiAXIIKfSmb+jrvXBqoP+D6/K7rUjG2aXiRtTIAXms9sm VRu7cmw= In-Reply-To: List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------nnhkxN6wIhs8tLsqxRLXE301 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 2026-02-24 Tu 10:55 AM, Andrew Dunstan wrote: > > > On 2026-02-23 Mo 9:08 PM, Tom Lane wrote: >> Jacob Champion writes: >>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2026 at 4:45 PM Tom Lane wrote: >>>> Also: I was initially baffled why you thought this needs >>>> back-patching, but I guess you have one eye on packagers like >>>> Debian who think they can make older versions use newer libpq.so. >>> Right. >> Actually, that is going to be harder than you thought, because libpq >> before v18 will spit up on connection option "max_protocol_version". >> This patch will not work as-is for back-patching unless we care to >> also back-patch the addition of that option, which I'd be inclined >> to resist. >> >> Fortunately, we long ago had the foresight to invent PQlibVersion, >> so you could make addition of the extra option conditional on >> PQlibVersion(conn) >= 180000 in branches before 18. >> >>> Hmmm, looks like the -dump1.log output is actually from *before* >>> pg_upgrade actually runs: >> Yeah, I came to the same conclusion. I got a clean BF run using >> your patch together with the attached patch for the BF client. >> (In this patch, I did not worry about scenarios involving old >> minor releases. If Andrew is excited about that case he can >> extend the version-comparison logic.) >> >> > > > I am not worried about old minor releases. I am currently testing a > patch with similar intent to yours. > > Here's what worked for me, even before Jacob's patch of 15 minutes or so ago. cheers andrew -- Andrew Dunstan EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com --------------nnhkxN6wIhs8tLsqxRLXE301 Content-Type: text/x-patch; charset=UTF-8; name="maxprotocolversion.patch" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="maxprotocolversion.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 ZGlmZiAtLWdpdCBhL1BHQnVpbGQvTW9kdWxlcy9UZXN0VXBncmFkZVh2ZXJzaW9uLnBtIGIv UEdCdWlsZC9Nb2R1bGVzL1Rlc3RVcGdyYWRlWHZlcnNpb24ucG0KaW5kZXggYTVlNmJlNS4u OGU4ZDI2MiAxMDA2NDQKLS0tIGEvUEdCdWlsZC9Nb2R1bGVzL1Rlc3RVcGdyYWRlWHZlcnNp b24ucG0KKysrIGIvUEdCdWlsZC9Nb2R1bGVzL1Rlc3RVcGdyYWRlWHZlcnNpb24ucG0KQEAg LTUxMyw2ICs1MTMsOSBAQCBzdWIgdGVzdF91cGdyYWRlICAgICMjIG5vIGNyaXRpYyAoU3Vi cm91dGluZXM6OlByb2hpYml0TWFueUFyZ3MpCiAKIAkjIHVzZSB0aGUgTkVXIHBnX2R1bXBh bGwgc28gd2UncmUgY29tcGFyaW5nIGFwcGxlcyB3aXRoIGFwcGxlcy4KIAlzZXRpbnN0ZW52 KCRzZWxmLCAiJGluc3RhbGxkaXIiLCAkc2F2ZV9lbnYpOworCWxvY2FsICRFTlZ7UEdNQVhQ Uk9UT0NPTFZFUlNJT059ID0KKwkgICgkb3ZlcnNpb24gbGUgJ1JFTDlfMl9TVEFCTEUnKSA/ ICIzLjAiIDogImxhdGVzdCI7CisKIAlzeXN0ZW0oIHFxeyIkaW5zdGFsbGRpci9iaW4vcGdf ZHVtcGFsbCIgJGR1bXBfb3B0cyAtcCAkc3BvcnQgLWYgfQogCQkgIC4gcXF7IiR1cGdyYWRl X2xvYy9vcmlnaW4tJG92ZXJzaW9uLnNxbCIgfQogCQkgIC4gcXF7PiAiJHVwZ3JhZGVfbG9j LyRvdmVyc2lvbi1kdW1wMS5sb2ciIDI+JjF9KTsKQEAgLTU3NSw2ICs1NzgsOCBAQCBzdWIg dGVzdF91cGdyYWRlICAgICMjIG5vIGNyaXRpYyAoU3Vicm91dGluZXM6OlByb2hpYml0TWFu eUFyZ3MpCiAJCSAgLiBxcXstLW5ldy1iaW5kaXI9IiRpbnN0YWxsZGlyL2JpbiIgfQogCQkg IC4gcXF7Pj4gIiR1cGdyYWRlX2xvYy8kb3ZlcnNpb24tdXBncmFkZS5sb2ciIDI+JjF9KTsK IAorCWRlbGV0ZSAkRU5We1BHTUFYUFJPVE9DT0xWRVJTSU9OfTsKKwogCWZvcmVhY2ggbXkg JHVwZ3JhZGVsb2cgKAogCQlnbG9iKAogCQkJIiRpbnN0YWxsZGlyL3BnX3VwZ3JhZGUqCg== --------------nnhkxN6wIhs8tLsqxRLXE301--