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To: David G. Johnston <[email protected]>
Cc: Laurenz Albe <[email protected]>
Cc: Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>
Cc: pgsql-docs <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: SQL command : ALTER DATABASE OWNER TO
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2024 20:08:08 +0100 (CET)
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David, 
reading again your last reply, it reminded me that as soon as we create a database 
we revoke default PUBLIC grants (i.e revoke all on <new_database> from public) to grant 
only databases privileges to specific roles/users. 
That's why after changing database ownership, we have to (re)grant privileges (ie. grant all on database) 
to the old owner...and that's what i forgot to do. 
So no problem at all and documentation is OK. 
Sorry for the noise ! 

Best regards 
Gilles 


De: "gparc" <[email protected]> 
À: "David G. Johnston" <[email protected]> 
Cc: "Laurenz Albe" <[email protected]>, "Daniel Gustafsson" <[email protected]>, "pgsql-docs" <[email protected]> 
Envoyé: Mercredi 24 Janvier 2024 18:11:30 
Objet: Re: SQL command : ALTER DATABASE OWNER TO 


De: "David G. Johnston" <[email protected]> 
À: "gparc" <[email protected]> 
Cc: "Laurenz Albe" <[email protected]>, "Daniel Gustafsson" <[email protected]>, "pgsql-docs" <[email protected]> 
Envoyé: Mercredi 24 Janvier 2024 17:50:17 
Objet: Re: SQL command : ALTER DATABASE OWNER TO 

On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 9:23 AM < [ mailto:[email protected] | [email protected] ] > wrote: - 


[postgres] $ psql 
psql (14.10) 




You really should add commentary, especially since you never demonstrated the tst role (I advise picking different names for all of the objects in the future) being unable to login. Which they should be able to since public is shown to have "c" connect privileges (=Tc/tst) 


BQ_BEGIN
[postgres@PGDEV14] postgres=# create user tst password 'tst'; 
CREATE ROLE 
[postgres@PGDEV14] postgres=# create database tst owner = tst; 
CREATE DATABASE 

BQ_END

This next command is pointless, it is a no-op, as soon as you made them owner of the tst database they already had all privileges to it, granted by the same user that created the database. And only it, that command is not recursing through the database into schemas and tables and adding more permissions. That isn't how this all works, a database is an object. While it is also a concept that encompasses the entire schema within it the permissions system only cares about the first definition. 


BQ_BEGIN
[postgres@PGDEV14] postgres=# grant all on database tst to tst; 
GRANT 
[postgres@PGDEV14] postgres=# \l+ tst 
Liste des bases de données 
Nom | Propriétaire | Encodage | Collationnement | Type caract. | Droits d'accès | Taille | Tablespace | Description 
-----+--------------+----------+-----------------+--------------+----------------+---------+------------+------------- 
tst | tst | UTF8 | fr_FR.UTF-8 | fr_FR.UTF-8 | =Tc/tst +| 9809 kB | pg_default | 
| | | | | tst=CTc/tst | | | 
(1 ligne) 


BQ_END

What are you trying to demonstrate here? 


BQ_BEGIN

[postgres@PGDEV14] tst=# \dn+ tst 
Liste des schémas 
Nom | Propriétaire | Droits d'accès | Description 
-----+--------------+----------------+------------- 
tst | tst | | 
(1 ligne) 


BQ_END

David J. 



David, 
what I wanted to demonstrate/convey is that when I alter the ownership of a **database**, the old owner loses all his privileges on it 
(even CONNECT) although he still owns schema and objects (table, index,..) inside it. 
As such, he can't use his own schema anymore. 
That's why I propose to update the documentation as it's weird, at least for me, when you get caught by this behaviour. 

Regards 
Gilles 



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