Received: from localhost (maia-2.hub.org [200.46.204.187]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54BC19FA19B for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 17:50:16 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.187]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 66298-02 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 17:50:12 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from lists.commandprompt.com (host-130.commandprompt.net [207.173.203.130]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB799F9EED for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 17:50:15 -0400 (AST) Received: from [192.168.1.95] (or-67-76-146-141.sta.embarqhsd.net [67.76.146.141]) (authenticated bits=0) by lists.commandprompt.com (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kB8Lo6u8020604 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 8 Dec 2006 13:50:07 -0800 Subject: Re: Switching to XML From: "Joshua D. Drake" To: Scott Marlowe Cc: Peter Eisentraut , Josh Berkus , pgsql-docs@postgresql.org, David Blewett In-Reply-To: <1165614356.3243.77.camel@state.g2switchworks.com> References: <4579720E.4000707@dawninglight.net> <200612082115.53566.peter_e@gmx.net> <1165609294.24745.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200612082158.06649.peter_e@gmx.net> <1165613160.24745.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1165614356.3243.77.camel@state.g2switchworks.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Command Prompt, Inc. Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:51:56 -0800 Message-Id: <1165614716.24745.45.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.5, clamav-milter version 0.88.5 on projects.commandprompt.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (lists.commandprompt.com [192.168.2.159]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:50:08 -0800 (PST) X-Archive-Number: 200612/44 X-Sequence-Number: 3967 On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 15:45 -0600, Scott Marlowe wrote: > On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 15:26, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 21:58 +0100, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > > > Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > > You can create, edit, convert, save, and open docbook xml in > > > > OpenOfice.org. > > > > > > Sure, there are more editing options with DocBook XML. No one disputes > > > that. But the question at hand was about processing the DocBook. > > > > Yes which is generated from our use of SGML which is the core of this > > problem and the core of the question as a whole. > > > > SGML is making working with the documentation *harder*. > > > > We have people that *DO NOT* contribute because of this SGML > > requirement. They have what I consider extremely valid reasons, namely > > it is dumb to require a writer to use emacs or write tags explictly. > > I'm one. I had the vacuuming stuff about written, but couldn't figure > out the tool set this summer, and didn't have the time. Does OO make it > pretty much painless to work with? I couldn't find any tools that I > felt comfortable using for SGML / Docbooks. OO treats Docbook like a normal document. You will however loose styles (like bold, italic). It does support tables, it understands transformation from things like sect1 (from OO heading1) etc... The style loss is to be expected because Docbook doesn't contain representation data. That belongs to a style sheet. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Providing the most comprehensive PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate