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* Normalized Ranking example incorrect in text search
@ 2007-11-14 06:24 Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
2007-11-14 19:37 ` Re: Normalized Ranking example incorrect in text search Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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From: Simon Riggs @ 2007-11-14 06:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-docs
http://developer.postgresql.org/pgdocs/postgres/textsearch-controls.html
Ranking Search Results
shows and example which says
"This is the same example using normalized ranking"
and then gives a query which calculates normalization in an incorrect
manner, yet without using the normalization parameter. A correct example
would be something like this:
SELECT title, ts_rank_cd(textsearch, query, 8 /*Normalization*/) AS rank
FROM apod, to_tsquery('neutrino|(dark & matter)') query
WHERE query @@ textsearch
ORDER BY rank DESC LIMIT 10;
I can't rerun the query because I don't have the example data set used.
Is that available?
This section also describes the two ranking functions supplied and
suggests you can write your own also.
- Can we say what the differences are between the two ranking functions?
Why do we have two?
- Can we supply or link to an example ranking function to allow people
to write their own?
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Simon Riggs
2ndQuadrant http://www.2ndQuadrant.com
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* Re: Normalized Ranking example incorrect in text search
2007-11-14 06:24 Normalized Ranking example incorrect in text search Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
@ 2007-11-14 19:37 ` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
2007-11-14 19:49 ` Re: Normalized Ranking example incorrect in text search Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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From: Tom Lane @ 2007-11-14 19:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>; +Cc: pgsql-docs
Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> writes:
> http://developer.postgresql.org/pgdocs/postgres/textsearch-controls.html
> Ranking Search Results
> shows and example which says
> "This is the same example using normalized ranking"
> and then gives a query which calculates normalization in an incorrect
> manner,
On what basis do you claim that's an incorrect manner? It's exactly
what is described in the paragraph just before the examples.
> A correct example
> would be something like this:
> SELECT title, ts_rank_cd(textsearch, query, 8 /*Normalization*/) AS rank
Why is that correct (or more correct than other ways)?
> - Can we say what the differences are between the two ranking functions?
> Why do we have two?
We already say that: the _cd function doesn't work without positional
info in the input tsvector.
regards, tom lane
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* Re: Normalized Ranking example incorrect in text search
2007-11-14 06:24 Normalized Ranking example incorrect in text search Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
2007-11-14 19:37 ` Re: Normalized Ranking example incorrect in text search Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
@ 2007-11-14 19:49 ` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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From: Tom Lane @ 2007-11-14 19:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>; +Cc: pgsql-docs@postgresql.org, Oleg Bartunov <oleg@sai.msu.su>; Teodor Sigaev <teodor@sigaev.ru>
I wrote:
> Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> writes:
>> and then gives a query which calculates normalization in an incorrect
>> manner,
> On what basis do you claim that's an incorrect manner? It's exactly
> what is described in the paragraph just before the examples.
... although on reflection, it seems pretty stupid to be recommending
a method that requires two evaluations at each row of an admittedly
expensive function.
Seems like we should add one more normalization flag bit:
32 --- replace computed rank by rank / (rank + 1)
and then the second example would be
SELECT title, ts_rank_cd(textsearch, query, 32 /* rank/(rank+1) */) AS rank
FROM apod, to_tsquery('neutrino|(dark & matter)') query
WHERE query @@ textsearch
ORDER BY rank DESC LIMIT 10;
with no change in the example output.
regards, tom lane
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