From daniel.westermann@dbi-services.com Fri May 22 02:06:21 2026 Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ezMFA-0003bY-M2 for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2018 12:56:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ezMF9-0005fy-3Z for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2018 12:56:27 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ezMF8-0005fo-UC for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2018 12:56:26 +0000 Received: from mail.dbi-services.com ([195.70.1.167] helo=33229-ml-01.dfinet.ch) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ezMF5-00072l-Tu for pgsql-docs@postgresql.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2018 12:56:26 +0000 Received: from 33229-ml-01.dfinet.ch (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 33229-ml-01.dfinet.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36B2FC012856 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2018 13:56:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 33229-ml-01.dfinet.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B7AC022319 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2018 13:56:20 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at 33229-ml-01.dfinet.ch Received: from 33229-ml-01.dfinet.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (33229-ml-01.dfinet.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id XUCkg3FneQOD for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2018 13:56:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from 33229-ml-01.dfinet.ch (33229-ml-01.dfinet.ch [10.128.30.2]) by 33229-ml-01.dfinet.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF66C012856 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2018 13:56:20 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2018 13:56:20 +0100 (CET) From: Daniel Westermann To: pgsql-docs@postgresql.org Message-ID: <1237101144.12611.1521809780021.JavaMail.zimbra@dbi-services.com> Subject: Blanks in the first line before the first word in the code boxes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_70088281-ed17-456c-bf1c-4f34c8080f18" X-Originating-IP: [46.140.36.2] X-Mailer: Zimbra 8.8.7_GA_1964 (ZimbraWebClient - FF59 (Linux)/8.8.7_GA_1964) Thread-Index: W/9QhjC4bcto71245Y/T395PgPfGcw== Thread-Topic: Blanks in the first line before the first word in the code boxes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --=_70088281-ed17-456c-bf1c-4f34c8080f18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, is it only me who sees blanks before the first word in the first line of the code boxes, e.g. here: [ https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.6/static/sql-createtable.html | https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.6/static/sql-createtable.html ] [ https://www.postgresql.org/docs/10/static/sql-createtable.html | https://www.postgresql.org/docs/10/static/sql-createtable.html ] For the devel documentation it is fine: [ https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/sql-createtable.html | https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/sql-createtable.html ] Tested in Firefox and Chrome. Regards Daniel --=_70088281-ed17-456c-bf1c-4f34c8080f18 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Tested in Firefox and Chrome.

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Daniel
<= /body> --=_70088281-ed17-456c-bf1c-4f34c8080f18-- From peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com Fri May 22 02:06:21 2026 Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f1MQa-0005v7-1n for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 01:32:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f1MQZ-0006t1-15 for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 01:32:31 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f1MOE-0003DC-Q3 for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 01:30:06 +0000 Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.29]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f1MOA-0005Qn-P2 for pgsql-docs@postgresql.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 01:30:05 +0000 Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E7320D17; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 21:30:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 28 Mar 2018 21:30:01 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=2zgIO0 nHIhFbjKQkaBlSVHkGtkN3PXd0m4auhOIhFJY=; b=V4/PlSmKwu6dxE/YSHrsAE OXXFXex233xpSn+hClF5WTPzQ//l//EUU53mecWOoywdfphgffUN8CjoRoNp1OK4 2ce/VP3m7ENObBS5A9Jwl35lV989YIazBGvAkQGDee5Pr0Ufcqh7n0Y358Kmr3M+ YbrZoyEhbb3rJCFW0q1/81wqo2EgYZGMjo/bDEhNT7qvIQOyIYkCai8JjV3Vi/cV IsbwBVJ4F9lxIUUCzm9039J0zpUwi2WaZ+n8nPqtQhds7w3gUlMDxqe6TmK3uz7K +0evnO30lf9ibnI07f4DbzIu4Kbb6Vh0N6OHKeZdeSfcjdH/MziDGFRcvRqNHhxg == X-ME-Sender: Received: from april.local (c-73-13-66-39.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [73.13.66.39]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 26EB710354; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 21:30:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Blanks in the first line before the first word in the code boxes To: Daniel Westermann , pgsql-docs@postgresql.org References: <1237101144.12611.1521809780021.JavaMail.zimbra@dbi-services.com> From: Peter Eisentraut Organization: 2ndQuadrant Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 21:30:00 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1237101144.12611.1521809780021.JavaMail.zimbra@dbi-services.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On 3/23/18 08:56, Daniel Westermann wrote: > is it only me who sees blanks before the first word in the first line of > the code boxes, e.g. here: > > https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.6/static/sql-createtable.html > https://www.postgresql.org/docs/10/static/sql-createtable.html > > For the devel documentation it is fine: > https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/sql-createtable.html > > Tested in Firefox and Chrome. Yeah, that looks weird. I'll look into it. -- Peter Eisentraut http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services From peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com Fri May 22 02:06:21 2026 Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f1MQa-0005vA-Cg for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 01:32:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f1MQZ-0006t2-16 for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 01:32:31 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f1MQY-0006sr-RF for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 01:32:30 +0000 Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.29]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f1MQW-0005WB-AD for pgsql-docs@postgresql.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 01:32:30 +0000 Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9320920F86; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 21:32:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 28 Mar 2018 21:32:26 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=6gaaUO qOxsd9FeeXlzwP7ciCDI3d8cADlqi21XicMj4=; b=fEMtU+2nT2R8pHP1PjluBn vvHvh0hqNdkRKj57tb7M5djCxGF9oydWi1VtNKOOcIXoxlYVRtMv5cI5VFb2GhEP xpB6xBSjQV6xFo4yW1dwsRtx02LRV+t281wdwISq9asrtVNVRWtXRX6T7Yc2v8Jl 39nAvGzCkJCL2W8ev9B+aACXGE56nwBmuIZ6ZhC2lZYCHRknIIACd6sPbFc7aQbG WFqQJnt73LgREAdd2ivdJOL5MGjy0x8MhCtx6YiJmL/28rzQrHEhnZ1V8+BdELJ+ ivckk+t7U8/a2lCdhMzrfRSaMdH09GwSpWtrc1lDZCRdFn8E5oKHqz6/jCnUh2qg == X-ME-Sender: Received: from april.local (c-73-13-66-39.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [73.13.66.39]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 579CB1036B; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 21:32:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Blanks in the first line before the first word in the code boxes From: Peter Eisentraut To: Daniel Westermann , pgsql-docs@postgresql.org References: <1237101144.12611.1521809780021.JavaMail.zimbra@dbi-services.com> Organization: 2ndQuadrant Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 21:32:26 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On 3/28/18 21:30, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > On 3/23/18 08:56, Daniel Westermann wrote: >> is it only me who sees blanks before the first word in the first line of >> the code boxes, e.g. here: >> >> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.6/static/sql-createtable.html >> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/10/static/sql-createtable.html >> >> For the devel documentation it is fine: >> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/sql-createtable.html >> >> Tested in Firefox and Chrome. > > Yeah, that looks weird. I'll look into it. Just looking at a nearby thread ... something is quite whacky with the web site stylesheet. It didn't use to look like this. Check this out: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/10/static/pgcrypto.html#id-1.11.7.35.5 -- Peter Eisentraut http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services From jkatz@postgresql.org Fri May 22 02:06:21 2026 Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f1MV7-0006F1-9M for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 01:37:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f1MV6-00009Z-AO for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 01:37:12 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f1MV6-00009P-4Y for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 01:37:12 +0000 Received: from meldrar.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::31]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f1MV3-0005d0-11 for pgsql-docs@postgresql.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 01:37:11 +0000 Received: from pool-98-116-99-252.nycmny.fios.verizon.net ([98.116.99.252] helo=ph33r-retina.home) by meldrar.postgresql.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f1MUy-0007Un-ND; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 01:37:08 +0000 From: "Jonathan S. Katz" Message-Id: <5B6B7585-9892-4846-904F-BB5B4A011A7D@postgresql.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_15BD341A-83CA-4CD6-82B7-B0CC17D8B0E6" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Subject: Re: Blanks in the first line before the first word in the code boxes Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 21:36:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: Cc: Daniel Westermann , pgsql-docs@postgresql.org To: Peter Eisentraut References: <1237101144.12611.1521809780021.JavaMail.zimbra@dbi-services.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --Apple-Mail=_15BD341A-83CA-4CD6-82B7-B0CC17D8B0E6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Mar 28, 2018, at 9:32 PM, Peter Eisentraut = wrote: >=20 > On 3/28/18 21:30, Peter Eisentraut wrote: >> On 3/23/18 08:56, Daniel Westermann wrote: >>> is it only me who sees blanks before the first word in the first = line of >>> the code boxes, e.g. here: >>>=20 >>> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.6/static/sql-createtable.html >>> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/10/static/sql-createtable.html >>>=20 >>> For the devel documentation it is fine: >>> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/sql-createtable.html >>>=20 >>> Tested in Firefox and Chrome. >>=20 >> Yeah, that looks weird. I'll look into it. >=20 > Just looking at a nearby thread ... something is quite whacky with the > web site stylesheet. It didn't use to look like this. Check this = out: > https://www.postgresql.org/docs/10/static/pgcrypto.html#id-1.11.7.35.5 = Something is adding spaces - it=E2=80=99s within the =E2=80=9C
=E2=80=9D=
 tag, which causes browsers
to interpret each space literally.

For the case of the =E2=80=9Cdigest=E2=80=9D function, the outputted =
HTML shows the first digest
function indented, the second one at the start of the new line.

Jonathan


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On Mar 28, 2018, at 9:32 PM, Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:

On = 3/28/18 21:30, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
On 3/23/18 08:56, Daniel Westermann wrote:
is it only me who sees = blanks before the first word in the first line of
the code = boxes, e.g. here:

https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.6/static/sql-createtable.html=
https://www.postgresql.org/docs/10/static/sql-createtable.html<= br class=3D"">
For the devel documentation it is fine:
https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/sql-createtable.ht= ml

Tested in Firefox and Chrome.

Yeah, that looks weird. =  I'll look into it.

Just = looking at a nearby thread ... something is quite whacky with the
web site stylesheet.  It didn't use to look like this. =  Check this out:
https://www.postgresql.org/docs/10/static/pgcrypto.html#id-1.11= .7.35.5

Something = is adding spaces - it=E2=80=99s within the =E2=80=9C<pre>=E2=80=9D = tag, which causes browsers
to interpret each space = literally.

For the case of the = =E2=80=9Cdigest=E2=80=9D function, the outputted HTML shows the first = digest
function indented, the second one at the start of the = new line.

Jonathan

= --Apple-Mail=_15BD341A-83CA-4CD6-82B7-B0CC17D8B0E6-- From peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com Fri May 22 02:06:21 2026 Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f1MiN-00077o-4R for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 01:50:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f1MiM-0007jp-4C for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 01:50:54 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:1501:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f1MfH-0005sV-3U for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 01:47:43 +0000 Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.29]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f1MfD-0006Kb-Cr; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 01:47:41 +0000 Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FE721910; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 21:47:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 28 Mar 2018 21:47:38 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=y3cIdL r7ewBJFpAWNHGveGjLlcP6gwA0755qrvLPfy4=; b=BHjqytfWBOopVXLSLZRZtd xXjVHWZ2bP35cyd3WJMBLh2Oj0hS0tfTcpaIH7oU1CwnESt8pgUZ77h0AE6S5rox FR5UjugAgdiGOorHYy7bXHBRI9SOfYvipu/Vnkn0LzTXeRFkDXNTrxgmkFBOFs6I dikbsiR5eTaLihP2SgTxT/sv8JJk4auCtBHvTsqPpoZ3Gq6ABVaDmwJKuZfmKbXu bmkL0RJtKOa41y9tt/NiqSwkQK9KQ0Me5VyJKe9VbN0F8d2WAFt1z5RFJ+f4jp7Z AN6LeUGAOKpPJtcKTErGILBEzyK/IExYoNu+gBOzOBh20FjBaLkH4v6WfifoLFuA == X-ME-Sender: Received: from april.local (c-73-13-66-39.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [73.13.66.39]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4CD7510339; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 21:47:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Blanks in the first line before the first word in the code boxes To: "Jonathan S. Katz" References: <1237101144.12611.1521809780021.JavaMail.zimbra@dbi-services.com> <5B6B7585-9892-4846-904F-BB5B4A011A7D@postgresql.org> Cc: Daniel Westermann , pgsql-docs@postgresql.org From: Peter Eisentraut Organization: 2ndQuadrant Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 21:47:38 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5B6B7585-9892-4846-904F-BB5B4A011A7D@postgresql.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On 3/28/18 21:36, Jonathan S. Katz wrote: > >> On Mar 28, 2018, at 9:32 PM, Peter Eisentraut >> > > wrote: >>> Yeah, that looks weird.  I'll look into it. >> >> Just looking at a nearby thread ... something is quite whacky with the >> web site stylesheet.  It didn't use to look like this.  Check this out: >> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/10/static/pgcrypto.html#id-1.11.7.35.5 > > Something is adding spaces - it’s within the “
” tag, which causes
> browsers
> to interpret each space literally.
> 
> For the case of the “digest” function, the outputted HTML shows the
> first digest
> function indented, the second one at the start of the new line.

Yeah, the spaces are in the source, so it's not a CSS issue.  But it
doesn't come out like that if you build the docs locally.  So it's
something in the web site code.

-- 
Peter Eisentraut              http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services




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> On Mar 28, 2018, at 9:47 PM, Peter Eisentraut =
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> On 3/28/18 21:36, Jonathan S. Katz wrote:
>>=20
>>> On Mar 28, 2018, at 9:32 PM, Peter Eisentraut
>>> >> > wrote:
>>>> Yeah, that looks weird.  I'll look into it.
>>>=20
>>> Just looking at a nearby thread ... something is quite whacky with =
the
>>> web site stylesheet.  It didn't use to look like this.  Check this =
out:
>>> =
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>>=20
>> Something is adding spaces - it=E2=80=99s within the =E2=80=9C
=E2=80=
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>> browsers
>> to interpret each space literally.
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>> For the case of the =E2=80=9Cdigest=E2=80=9D function, the outputted =
HTML shows the
>> first digest
>> function indented, the second one at the start of the new line.
>=20
> Yeah, the spaces are in the source, so it's not a CSS issue.  But it
> doesn't come out like that if you build the docs locally.  So it's
> something in the web site code.

If I traced the code correctly, the line I suspect is such:

	s =3D tidy.parseString(contents.encode('utf-8'), **tidyopts)

I know that the web infrastructure recently updated to the Django 1.11
series, I=E2=80=99m not sure if libtidy or the like were also updated =
with that. I=E2=80=99ll
defer to Magnus on that.

Jonathan





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On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 4:02 AM, Jonathan S. Katz 
wrote:

>
> > On Mar 28, 2018, at 9:47 PM, Peter Eisentraut <
> peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 3/28/18 21:36, Jonathan S. Katz wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Mar 28, 2018, at 9:32 PM, Peter Eisentraut
> >>>  >>> > wrote:
> >>>> Yeah, that looks weird.  I'll look into it.
> >>>
> >>> Just looking at a nearby thread ... something is quite whacky with th=
e
> >>> web site stylesheet.  It didn't use to look like this.  Check this ou=
t:
> >>> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/10/static/pgcrypto.html#id-1.11.7.35.=
5
> >>
> >> Something is adding spaces - it=E2=80=99s within the =E2=80=9C
=E2=
=80=9D tag, which causes
> >> browsers
> >> to interpret each space literally.
> >>
> >> For the case of the =E2=80=9Cdigest=E2=80=9D function, the outputted H=
TML shows the
> >> first digest
> >> function indented, the second one at the start of the new line.
> >
> > Yeah, the spaces are in the source, so it's not a CSS issue.  But it
> > doesn't come out like that if you build the docs locally.  So it's
> > something in the web site code.
>
> If I traced the code correctly, the line I suspect is such:
>
>         s =3D tidy.parseString(contents.encode('utf-8'), **tidyopts)
>
> I know that the web infrastructure recently updated to the Django 1.11
> series, I=E2=80=99m not sure if libtidy or the like were also updated wit=
h that.
> I=E2=80=99ll
> defer to Magnus on that.
>

This would not change with the change to Django 1.11 -- the actual script
that loads the docs runs outside of Django.

Now, the entire machine was upgraded to a new Debian meaning new python,
new tidy etc some time ago. But this was done the first week of February.

Is it possible that this issue actually showed up around 4-5 February, but
just has gone unnoticed since?

--=20
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On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 4:02 AM, Jonathan S. Katz <= ;jkatz@postgresql= .org> wrote:

> On Mar 28, 2018, at 9:47 PM, Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com&g= t; wrote:
>
> On 3/28/18 21:36, Jonathan S. Katz wrote:
>>
>>> On Mar 28, 2018, at 9:32 PM, Peter Eisentraut
>>> <peter.= eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com
>>> <mailto:peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>> wrote:
>>>> Yeah, that looks weird.=C2=A0 I'll look into it.
>>>
>>> Just looking at a nearby thread ... something is quite whacky = with the
>>> web site stylesheet.=C2=A0 It didn't use to look like this= .=C2=A0 Check this out:
>>> https://www.postg= resql.org/docs/10/static/pgcrypto.html#id-1.11.7.35.5
>>
>> Something is adding spaces - it=E2=80=99s within the =E2=80=9C<= pre>=E2=80=9D tag, which causes
>> browsers
>> to interpret each space literally.
>>
>> For the case of the =E2=80=9Cdigest=E2=80=9D function, the outputt= ed HTML shows the
>> first digest
>> function indented, the second one at the start of the new line. >
> Yeah, the spaces are in the source, so it's not a CSS issue.=C2=A0= But it
> doesn't come out like that if you build the docs locally.=C2=A0 So= it's
> something in the web site code.

If I traced the code correctly, the line I suspect is such:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 s =3D tidy.parseString(contents.encode(= 9;utf-8'), **tidyopts)

I know that the web infrastructure recently updated to the Django 1.11
series, I=E2=80=99m not sure if libtidy or the like were also updated with = that. I=E2=80=99ll
defer to Magnus on that.

This would not= change with the change to Django 1.11 -- the actual script that loads the = docs runs outside of Django.

Now, the entire machi= ne was upgraded to a new Debian meaning new python, new tidy etc some time = ago. But this was done the first week of February.

Is it possible that this issue actually showed up around 4-5 February, but= just has gone unnoticed since?=C2=A0

--
=C2=A0Magnus Hagander
=C2=A0Me: https://www.hagander.net/
=C2=A0Work: https://www.redpill-= linpro.com/
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Katz" , Peter Eisentraut , Daniel Westermann , pgsql-docs Subject: Re: Blanks in the first line before the first word in the code boxes In-reply-to: References: <1237101144.12611.1521809780021.JavaMail.zimbra@dbi-services.com> <5B6B7585-9892-4846-904F-BB5B4A011A7D@postgresql.org> <07C79745-DDD1-4544-B95F-D878A477E898@postgresql.org> Comments: In-reply-to Magnus Hagander message dated "Thu, 29 Mar 2018 12:14:45 +0200" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <13424.1522330858.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 09:40:58 -0400 Message-ID: <13425.1522330858@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk Magnus Hagander writes: > Is it possible that this issue actually showed up around 4-5 February, but > just has gone unnoticed since? It's been there a few weeks, anyway --- I remember somebody complaining before this particular thread started. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if it broke then. regards, tom lane From david.g.johnston@gmail.com Fri May 22 02:06:22 2026 Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f1Y7o-0000N6-GB for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 14:01:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f1Y7m-0002NX-Mm for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 14:01:54 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:1501:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f1Y7m-0002NN-AP for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 14:01:54 +0000 Received: from mail-qt0-x242.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::242]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f1Y7j-0006QV-8W; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 14:01:53 +0000 Received: by mail-qt0-x242.google.com with SMTP id h4so6286453qtn.13; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 07:01:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=lX5YHB83leUX+P22DPIEhhyt5ShanGKjlUDoKhA9yuU=; b=FSWtmY9b7mJUcmvE7PjIQZGZCNIcZtqFhBNkN9u5T7LAMdlepAtqR7lX+Ou+8qPrJW HbruZZ495xE00LXRfDEAzFIGJbChUG2ZOXeO+xka3eKVgK7OFWWGNta+50LHLv0Ao8OK g9wum0REXfyGg10zRQnm7DELAaBq8W0JWeUAfPfQA17ZnwOtCU77C88lIWnOZDpw41Fi yieWnrfGiO9tcU1ZE8JB7uWgAQV1OIqoMhrFOI/AkHZlPVNqij5Zp+BrtbBW4+T2IzlP k3iT+LR3VHUkMEflpal8tL0OY9Zu4Z4HAcKab0wa1tMRxekRYI/78ryWxBxHbnsKICdf 1/zw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=lX5YHB83leUX+P22DPIEhhyt5ShanGKjlUDoKhA9yuU=; b=i7bx+QeRjAfuG2fM568wDZ7CmDpYmC74t796DMeaMrUqZV81RbHjNLdb67zW1g963J VWOW+Zp1djXOc6O3RZBTWVk8B542F+2D4KYzjuoDjr1/OwpPlcNby+MAL7z6A6hCNAz1 bumIHj8YPF68AJbAoxLJzjYzmEdqcHb0gT5nJMvGXWyFj/9a5bbHKpE7JFA8nPsmuGpC oojzTYgjCObJhvM1Vs+P4PiQddEuE9BdI9eBoSYcBL+7cSfDD+z4SKPp24x7olqmShrJ QAY/W4A9uY55f9kfrmHiWKTZ1y2zG1jD9W1l8K54mX74vxJkNexGtVNw0uySkHtufbS6 7u6g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tBbtsU5Dv+e6551+6m5c3XOKUfvYfLCPGtqyfGDq6sovXcy+dez Vrq2mSNXdANKqsfjlcYD5gtMD8ReSpWtIP77ouw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx48KRBytFVYVXJ+9NLf4pl03qqgbEGie5GimkNiGWqd5AW9JlHXOwk1gidh3SAlhPPti17jXtuFwlsD3nwV4NIE= X-Received: by 10.200.46.139 with SMTP id h11mr11671876qta.253.1522332110180; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 07:01:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.12.157.78 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 07:01:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <13425.1522330858@sss.pgh.pa.us> References: <1237101144.12611.1521809780021.JavaMail.zimbra@dbi-services.com> <5B6B7585-9892-4846-904F-BB5B4A011A7D@postgresql.org> <07C79745-DDD1-4544-B95F-D878A477E898@postgresql.org> <13425.1522330858@sss.pgh.pa.us> From: "David G. Johnston" Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 07:01:49 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Blanks in the first line before the first word in the code boxes To: Tom Lane Cc: Magnus Hagander , "Jonathan S. Katz" , Peter Eisentraut , Daniel Westermann , pgsql-docs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a11c10f90a8588105688d90aa" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --001a11c10f90a8588105688d90aa Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 6:40 AM, Tom Lane wrote: > Magnus Hagander writes: > > Is it possible that this issue actually showed up around 4-5 February, > but > > just has gone unnoticed since? > > It's been there a few weeks, anyway --- I remember somebody complaining > before this particular thread started. I wouldn't be a bit surprised > if it broke then. > =E2=80=8BFirst report that both Tom and I responded to, Tom by cc'ing www, = was on the Feb 26th, https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/151965261562.21248.680702308554136126= 4%40wrigleys.postgresql.org David J. --001a11c10f90a8588105688d90aa Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Ma= r 29, 2018 at 6:40 AM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
Magnus Hagander <magnus@h= agander.net> writes:
> Is it possible that this issue actually showed up around 4-5 February,= but
> just has gone unnoticed since?

It's been there a few weeks, anyway --- I remember somebody comp= laining
before this particular thread started.=C2=A0 I wouldn't be a bit surpri= sed
if it broke then.

=E2=80=8BFirst report t= hat both Tom and I responded to, Tom by cc'ing www, was on the Feb 26th= ,


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On T= hu, Mar 29, 2018 at 3:40 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wr= ote:
Magnus Hagander <= ;magnus@hagander.net> writes:=
> Is it possible that this issue actually showed up around 4-5 February,= but
> just has gone unnoticed since?

It's been there a few weeks, anyway --- I remember somebody comp= laining
before this particular thread started.=C2=A0 I wouldn't be a bit surpri= sed
if it broke then.

Yeah, it's quite = likely that it got broken by the OS upgrade and nobody picked up on it befo= re then. This can probably be because the backbranch documentation is only = updated when we make actual releases.

However, why= does devel work fine when the others are broken. It's the exact same c= ode that's run to load the docs. The *input* to the loader must also be= different at some point.

--
=C2= =A0Magnus Hagander
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--001a1142acdc3528ab0568cb809e-- From tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us Fri May 22 02:06:22 2026 Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f2fS1-00070U-P9 for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 01 Apr 2018 16:03:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f2fS0-0005BY-R0 for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 01 Apr 2018 16:03:24 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:1501:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f2fS0-0005BN-HU for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Sun, 01 Apr 2018 16:03:24 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f2fRy-0006px-7p; Sun, 01 Apr 2018 16:03:23 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w31G2tfn019321; Sun, 1 Apr 2018 12:02:55 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Magnus Hagander cc: "Jonathan S. Katz" , Peter Eisentraut , Daniel Westermann , pgsql-docs Subject: Re: Blanks in the first line before the first word in the code boxes In-reply-to: References: <1237101144.12611.1521809780021.JavaMail.zimbra@dbi-services.com> <5B6B7585-9892-4846-904F-BB5B4A011A7D@postgresql.org> <07C79745-DDD1-4544-B95F-D878A477E898@postgresql.org> <13425.1522330858@sss.pgh.pa.us> Comments: In-reply-to Magnus Hagander message dated "Sun, 01 Apr 2018 17:55:21 +0200" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <19319.1522598575.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2018 12:02:55 -0400 Message-ID: <19320.1522598575@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk Magnus Hagander writes: > However, why does devel work fine when the others are broken. It's the > exact same code that's run to load the docs. The *input* to the loader must > also be different at some point. HEAD is the only branch building the docs via XML, so it's hardly unlikely that the input is different. regards, tom lane From peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com Fri May 22 02:06:22 2026 Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f31rp-0000Lm-No for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 02 Apr 2018 15:59:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f31ro-0001aL-26 for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 02 Apr 2018 15:59:32 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f31rn-0001aB-Rs for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 02 Apr 2018 15:59:31 +0000 Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.29]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f31rj-0003UJ-Vj; Mon, 02 Apr 2018 15:59:30 +0000 Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861D42133A; Mon, 2 Apr 2018 11:59:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 02 Apr 2018 11:59:25 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=zz7rDF x1Ztl1usEq3gK6ajSkt85Xzjq7P77lm8Rvthg=; b=Qql1sR/GZOgWs9sLWp7hHB KfHxw5wsBpA2bbBURBtKUBi2uuRTIpv5OP4qe6W47His+RWITzVunjHoHbRHCbVB yoDAQ2g0Xh/3P7LJk+PpHKBKeXHGNz2d5JeKzrJGYPPKS9iSyd6vqE8PlQ+3NpS4 +uXA3D5GShpqGyQ79n5nIi8kpktkloG+XmitMtsYdrp4zTKfQNJwSKmBEGA5PBlN 3S9HJ4eyi6QZAJqeHq6JoXt9KTjisbvL50cZT8wzbFkXhw1ScTYV3rH/PbvtGA3x v2maQ6252Yw7jMqfRoJwakXaSUVhw8P59KCPkp5XibjvPF75pOtZtngckF/D0OHw == X-ME-Sender: Received: from april.local (c-73-13-66-39.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [73.13.66.39]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3D28010263; Mon, 2 Apr 2018 11:59:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Blanks in the first line before the first word in the code boxes To: Magnus Hagander , Tom Lane References: <1237101144.12611.1521809780021.JavaMail.zimbra@dbi-services.com> <5B6B7585-9892-4846-904F-BB5B4A011A7D@postgresql.org> <07C79745-DDD1-4544-B95F-D878A477E898@postgresql.org> <13425.1522330858@sss.pgh.pa.us> Cc: "Jonathan S. Katz" , Daniel Westermann , pgsql-docs From: Peter Eisentraut Organization: 2ndQuadrant Message-ID: <60a39b28-485e-1621-79af-fa01cf43b3c6@2ndquadrant.com> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2018 11:59:24 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On 4/1/18 11:55, Magnus Hagander wrote: > However, why does devel work fine when the others are broken. It's the > exact same code that's run to load the docs. The *input* to the loader > must also be different at some point. In devel, the raw HTML output looks like ...
ALTER FOREIGN TABLE [ IF EXISTS ] [ ONLY ] ...

(with a line break)

but before it looks like

... 
ALTER FOREIGN TABLE [ IF EXISTS ] [ ONLY ] ...

(without a line break).

So maybe some part of the processing code thinks it should do some kind
of "indentation" here.

-- 
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From: Magnus Hagander 
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 15:12:12 +0200
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On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 5:59 PM, Peter Eisentraut <
peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:

> On 4/1/18 11:55, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> > However, why does devel work fine when the others are broken. It's the
> > exact same code that's run to load the docs. The *input* to the loader
> > must also be different at some point.
>
> In devel, the raw HTML output looks like
>
> ... 
> ALTER FOREIGN TABLE [ IF EXISTS ] [ ONLY ] ...
>
> (with a line break)
>
> but before it looks like
>
> ... 
ALTER FOREIGN TABLE [ IF EXISTS ] [ ONLY ] ...
>
> (without a line break).
>
> So maybe some part of the processing code thinks it should do some kind
> of "indentation" here.
>
>
I think I found the problem, and pushed a fix for it. Basically it turns
off indentation completely on pre-11 versions., I elected to keep indention
on dev because it works there, and it makes debugging any of the formatting
a lot easier.

I've pushed the fix and reloaded the 10 docs. I have not reloaded earlier
branches yet, but I'd be interested in some people reviewing a bunch of
pages in the 10 docs mainly to see if (1) it fixes all the cases, and (2)
it actually breaks some *other* cases.


-- 
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 Me: https://www.hagander.net/ 
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On M= on, Apr 2, 2018 at 5:59 PM, Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisent= raut@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
On 4/1/18 11:55, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> However, why does devel work fine when the others are broken. It's= the
> exact same code that's run to load the docs. The *input* to the lo= ader
> must also be different at some point.

In devel, the raw HTML output looks like

... <pre class=3D"synopsis">
ALTER FOREIGN TABLE [ IF EXISTS ] [ ONLY ] ...

(with a line break)

but before it looks like

... <pre class=3D"synopsis">ALTER FOREIGN TABLE [ IF EXISTS= ] [ ONLY ] ...

(without a line break).

So maybe some part of the processing code thinks it should do some kind
of "indentation" here.

<= br>
I think I found the problem, and pushed a fix for it. Basical= ly it turns off indentation completely on pre-11 versions., I elected to ke= ep indention on dev because it works there, and it makes debugging any of t= he formatting a lot easier.

I've pushed the fi= x and reloaded the 10 docs. I have not reloaded earlier branches yet, but I= 'd be interested in some people reviewing a bunch of pages in the 10 do= cs mainly to see if (1) it fixes all the cases, and (2) it actually breaks = some *other* cases.=C2=A0


--
=C2=A0Magnus Hagander
=C2=A0Me: https://www.hagander.net/
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--089e0823b0d4679ce60568f17473-- From peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com Fri May 22 02:06:22 2026 Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f3NLA-0000Fh-1E for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2018 14:55:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f3NL9-0003qu-1D for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2018 14:55:15 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:1501:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f3NL8-0003qP-O5 for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2018 14:55:14 +0000 Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.29]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f3NL1-0001bp-Dz; Tue, 03 Apr 2018 14:55:13 +0000 Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9982820D87; Tue, 3 Apr 2018 10:55:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 03 Apr 2018 10:55:04 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=UrEk7C fe0GYWJ5+oo1LaKVtMw1lG4f0YLXW7IBOjL7w=; b=KKpcDUDmUB2ktuhquCAWDr EpxbRolSsIsi0/l+RLhFOO0YBkGQHHiE24yH80oyrgQdv+H4Hsjoe10Xa03qflgo 2JHHN0xKb//qhFjhVojNPmhCRdfxCuGaRc3XApKxZOxF7Zi0k8Vj1qhWdBm5vlcB fw6gHyF3DQnlfd4TC1J7OmY4P+3bOmecfN/em5rpd2gEzGHJ9ZPj+cq5qYZHhBVL yrRDFbl5jT4HivK77NWLQ5I6gsG51GzsMSEY4F+tngRHVhqQqABjkYrVemuYjINz +BOeKFeE5puFiC77gnbDcd/rX6Dj05uIVXhBfoe5stq1/6iWxSFHsovp+i+p7qxw == X-ME-Sender: Received: from april.local (c-73-13-66-39.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [73.13.66.39]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 47942E5096; Tue, 3 Apr 2018 10:55:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Blanks in the first line before the first word in the code boxes To: Magnus Hagander References: <1237101144.12611.1521809780021.JavaMail.zimbra@dbi-services.com> <5B6B7585-9892-4846-904F-BB5B4A011A7D@postgresql.org> <07C79745-DDD1-4544-B95F-D878A477E898@postgresql.org> <13425.1522330858@sss.pgh.pa.us> <60a39b28-485e-1621-79af-fa01cf43b3c6@2ndquadrant.com> Cc: Tom Lane , "Jonathan S. Katz" , Daniel Westermann , pgsql-docs From: Peter Eisentraut Organization: 2ndQuadrant Message-ID: <3f249760-fdf7-edb5-d927-6d5a4a1754d0@2ndquadrant.com> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 10:55:04 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On 4/3/18 09:12, Magnus Hagander wrote: > I've pushed the fix and reloaded the 10 docs. I have not reloaded > earlier branches yet, but I'd be interested in some people reviewing a > bunch of pages in the 10 docs mainly to see if (1) it fixes all the > cases, and (2) it actually breaks some *other* cases.  It looks correct now. -- Peter Eisentraut http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services From jkatz@postgresql.org Fri May 22 02:06:22 2026 Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f3iML-0000JJ-BT for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 04 Apr 2018 13:21:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f3iMK-0002qR-89 for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 04 Apr 2018 13:21:52 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f3iMK-0002qG-24 for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 04 Apr 2018 13:21:52 +0000 Received: from meldrar.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::31]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f3iMC-0006Fu-HU for pgsql-docs@postgresql.org; Wed, 04 Apr 2018 13:21:51 +0000 Received: from pool-98-116-99-252.nycmny.fios.verizon.net ([98.116.99.252] helo=ph33r-retina.home) by meldrar.postgresql.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f3iM7-0006EA-Fi; Wed, 04 Apr 2018 13:21:42 +0000 From: "Jonathan S. Katz" Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_1070809B-3A47-4978-98BD-1F26B9065329" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Subject: Re: Blanks in the first line before the first word in the code boxes Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 09:21:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: <3f249760-fdf7-edb5-d927-6d5a4a1754d0@2ndquadrant.com> Cc: Magnus Hagander , Tom Lane , Daniel Westermann , pgsql-docs To: Peter Eisentraut References: <1237101144.12611.1521809780021.JavaMail.zimbra@dbi-services.com> <5B6B7585-9892-4846-904F-BB5B4A011A7D@postgresql.org> <07C79745-DDD1-4544-B95F-D878A477E898@postgresql.org> <13425.1522330858@sss.pgh.pa.us> <60a39b28-485e-1621-79af-fa01cf43b3c6@2ndquadrant.com> <3f249760-fdf7-edb5-d927-6d5a4a1754d0@2ndquadrant.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --Apple-Mail=_1070809B-3A47-4978-98BD-1F26B9065329 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Apr 3, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Peter Eisentraut = wrote: >=20 > On 4/3/18 09:12, Magnus Hagander wrote: >> I've pushed the fix and reloaded the 10 docs. I have not reloaded >> earlier branches yet, but I'd be interested in some people reviewing = a >> bunch of pages in the 10 docs mainly to see if (1) it fixes all the >> cases, and (2) it actually breaks some *other* cases.=20 >=20 > It looks correct now. +1 Did a spot check on known broken pages and chose some others at random. Viewed the 9.6, 10, and devel versions. 10 and devel both looked correct, and the 9.6 was broken where expected. The only thing I saw (and this may be something to look at the SGML source) was some blocks that looked overly indented, but it was = consistent across all versions. On https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/queries-with.html = If you search for "WITH RECURSIVE search_graph(id, link, data, depth)=E2=80= =9D the expression in the CTE is much more indented than similar CTEs above it. IMV I would not let this stop us from reloading the earlier versions as = that indentation is consistent across all versions (including 9.6, where it = has the initial indentation as well). Jonathan --Apple-Mail=_1070809B-3A47-4978-98BD-1F26B9065329 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
On Apr 3, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:

On = 4/3/18 09:12, Magnus Hagander wrote:
I've pushed the fix and reloaded the 10 docs. I = have not reloaded
earlier branches yet, but I'd be = interested in some people reviewing a
bunch of pages in = the 10 docs mainly to see if (1) it fixes all the
cases, = and (2) it actually breaks some *other* cases. 

It looks correct = now.

+1

Did a spot check on known broken pages and chose = some others at
random. Viewed the 9.6, 10, and devel versions. =  10 and devel both
looked correct, and the 9.6 was broken = where expected.

The only thing I saw = (and this may be something to look at the SGML
source) was = some blocks that looked overly indented, but it was = consistent
across all versions.  On


If you search for "WITH = RECURSIVE search_graph(id, link, data, depth)=E2=80=9D
the = expression in the CTE is much more indented than similar CTEs = above
it.

IMV I would not = let this stop us from reloading the earlier versions as = that
indentation is consistent across all versions (including = 9.6, where it has the
initial indentation as = well).

Jonathan


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Katz" Cc: Peter Eisentraut , Tom Lane , Daniel Westermann , pgsql-docs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000caa90105690baf5c" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --000000000000caa90105690baf5c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Jonathan S. Katz wrote: > > On Apr 3, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Peter Eisentraut < > peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com> wrote: > > On 4/3/18 09:12, Magnus Hagander wrote: > > I've pushed the fix and reloaded the 10 docs. I have not reloaded > earlier branches yet, but I'd be interested in some people reviewing a > bunch of pages in the 10 docs mainly to see if (1) it fixes all the > cases, and (2) it actually breaks some *other* cases. > > > It looks correct now. > > > +1 > > Did a spot check on known broken pages and chose some others at > random. Viewed the 9.6, 10, and devel versions. 10 and devel both > looked correct, and the 9.6 was broken where expected. > > The only thing I saw (and this may be something to look at the SGML > source) was some blocks that looked overly indented, but it was consisten= t > across all versions. On > > https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/queries-with.html > > If you search for "WITH RECURSIVE search_graph(id, link, data, depth)=E2= =80=9D > the expression in the CTE is much more indented than similar CTEs above > it. > > IMV I would not let this stop us from reloading the earlier versions as > that > indentation is consistent across all versions (including 9.6, where it ha= s > the > initial indentation as well). > > I've reloaded docs back to 9.3. --=20 Magnus Hagander Me: https://www.hagander.net/ Work: https://www.redpill-linpro.com/ --000000000000caa90105690baf5c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Jonathan S. Katz <= jkatz@postgresql.= org> wrote:

On Apr 3, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadran= t.com> wrote:

On 4/3/18 09:12, Magnus Hagander wrote:
I've pushed the fix and reloaded the 10 docs. I h= ave not reloaded
earlier branches yet, but I'd be interested in some= people reviewing a
bunch of pages in the 10 docs mainly to see if (1) i= t fixes all the
cases, and (2) it actually breaks some *other* cases.=C2= =A0

It looks correct now.

<= /div>
+1

Did a spot check on known brok= en pages and chose some others at
random. Viewed the 9.6, 10, and= devel versions. =C2=A010 and devel both
looked correct, and the = 9.6 was broken where expected.

The only thing I sa= w (and this may be something to look at the SGML
source) was some= blocks that looked overly indented, but it was consistent
across= all versions.=C2=A0 On

https:= //www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/queries-with.html

If you search for "WITH RECURSIVE search_graph(= id, link, data, depth)=E2=80=9D
the expression in the CTE is much= more indented than similar CTEs above
it.

IMV I would not let this stop us from reloading the earlier versions as = that
indentation is consistent across all versions (including 9.6= , where it has the
initial indentation as well).


I've reloaded docs back to 9.3.=C2=A0


--
=C2=A0Magnus Ha= gander
=C2=A0Me: = https://www.hagander.net/
=C2=A0Work: https://www.redpill-linpro.com/
--000000000000caa90105690baf5c-- From peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com Fri May 22 02:06:22 2026 Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f3tFJ-0007bg-3a for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 05 Apr 2018 00:59:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f3tFI-0001xF-1Z for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 05 Apr 2018 00:59:20 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f3tFH-0001x5-1k for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 05 Apr 2018 00:59:19 +0000 Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.29]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f3tFD-0006wV-7h; Thu, 05 Apr 2018 00:59:18 +0000 Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85ACF21ECA; Wed, 4 Apr 2018 20:59:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 04 Apr 2018 20:59:13 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=Cud8Ff c35wj9XbfeT2h/f7xf8/ReovNdO+rhWl70g7U=; b=mt2/1dAEKMR9kQQLwRdxku F3DhVQbQhOxrN/rKTpwChP4qLQW910BTqFOOQy2IT3FaW1NIhvJPy7lusnTIOC2u rxFMQmB2ipYIf8FHAb1BPv4wO7N/UNtoy4+YNK7LMGKeu74pZ9LkAk7fmAqoo9KV Snmf2jQKJaAb6a8MqXITVURapm7RZh+tD8sXPpiS2FUmndiKU+4/0Fyxy5dsHBzh 3SVhQIMNQLrhz/A4qtLTeoVLbdcYxCbPBdlcLsz9zW9tU5q8bmWUDOEBPCT9//Hk CrBWdgmhBzKhSWBJHw3kwXM2nGsuyfsSAG7WBGB9BsgSCAOqEK+XRzvyAvxX5mDw == X-ME-Sender: Received: from april.local (c-73-13-66-39.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [73.13.66.39]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 2CA7510260; Wed, 4 Apr 2018 20:59:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Blanks in the first line before the first word in the code boxes To: "Jonathan S. Katz" References: <1237101144.12611.1521809780021.JavaMail.zimbra@dbi-services.com> <5B6B7585-9892-4846-904F-BB5B4A011A7D@postgresql.org> <07C79745-DDD1-4544-B95F-D878A477E898@postgresql.org> <13425.1522330858@sss.pgh.pa.us> <60a39b28-485e-1621-79af-fa01cf43b3c6@2ndquadrant.com> <3f249760-fdf7-edb5-d927-6d5a4a1754d0@2ndquadrant.com> Cc: Magnus Hagander , Tom Lane , Daniel Westermann , pgsql-docs From: Peter Eisentraut Organization: 2ndQuadrant Message-ID: <8168ffec-3a23-af64-f9a2-6d8c8b1f2358@2ndquadrant.com> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 20:59:12 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On 4/4/18 09:21, Jonathan S. Katz wrote: > The only thing I saw (and this may be something to look at the SGML > source) was some blocks that looked overly indented, but it was consistent > across all versions.  On > > https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/queries-with.html > > If you search for "WITH RECURSIVE search_graph(id, link, data, depth)” > the expression in the CTE is much more indented than similar CTEs above > it. This was that way in the source. Probably originally 8-space tabs. I've fixed it now. -- Peter Eisentraut http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services From jkatz@postgresql.org Fri May 22 02:06:22 2026 Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f3tPw-0008M3-DB for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 05 Apr 2018 01:10:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f3tPv-0007cl-A6 for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 05 Apr 2018 01:10:19 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f3tPv-0007bm-3s for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 05 Apr 2018 01:10:19 +0000 Received: from meldrar.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::31]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f3tPr-0007DG-Sk for pgsql-docs@postgresql.org; Thu, 05 Apr 2018 01:10:18 +0000 Received: from pool-98-116-99-252.nycmny.fios.verizon.net ([98.116.99.252] helo=ph33r-retina.home) by meldrar.postgresql.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f3tPm-0002sq-H2; Thu, 05 Apr 2018 01:10:13 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Subject: Re: Blanks in the first line before the first word in the code boxes From: "Jonathan S. Katz" In-Reply-To: <8168ffec-3a23-af64-f9a2-6d8c8b1f2358@2ndquadrant.com> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 21:10:06 -0400 Cc: Magnus Hagander , Tom Lane , Daniel Westermann , pgsql-docs Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5CB17727-5BFE-4455-930A-89882B2432BE@postgresql.org> References: <1237101144.12611.1521809780021.JavaMail.zimbra@dbi-services.com> <5B6B7585-9892-4846-904F-BB5B4A011A7D@postgresql.org> <07C79745-DDD1-4544-B95F-D878A477E898@postgresql.org> <13425.1522330858@sss.pgh.pa.us> <60a39b28-485e-1621-79af-fa01cf43b3c6@2ndquadrant.com> <3f249760-fdf7-edb5-d927-6d5a4a1754d0@2ndquadrant.com> <8168ffec-3a23-af64-f9a2-6d8c8b1f2358@2ndquadrant.com> To: Peter Eisentraut X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk > On Apr 4, 2018, at 8:59 PM, Peter Eisentraut = wrote: >=20 > On 4/4/18 09:21, Jonathan S. Katz wrote: >> The only thing I saw (and this may be something to look at the SGML >> source) was some blocks that looked overly indented, but it was = consistent >> across all versions. On >>=20 >> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/queries-with.html >>=20 >> If you search for "WITH RECURSIVE search_graph(id, link, data, = depth)=E2=80=9D >> the expression in the CTE is much more indented than similar CTEs = above >> it. >=20 > This was that way in the source. Probably originally 8-space tabs. That was my hunch, but wanted to be triple-sure. > I've fixed it now. Awesome. Thanks! Jonathan