Received: from maia.hub.org (maia-2.hub.org [200.46.204.251]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 568E813364DE for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 11:00:41 -0400 (AST) Received: from mail.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by maia.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.251]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 68281-07 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:00:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from spinlock.commandprompt.com (unknown [207.173.203.215]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A18011337990 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 11:00:33 -0400 (AST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spinlock.commandprompt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04DD348046; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 07:00:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at commandprompt.com Received: from spinlock.commandprompt.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (spinlock.commandprompt.com.commandprompt.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vMUrDtaRVEFN; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 07:00:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from perhan.alvh.no-ip.org (unknown [190.95.20.220]) by spinlock.commandprompt.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A14DB348022; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 07:00:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by perhan.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 496036E58B; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:00:09 -0300 (CLST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Dmitriy Igrishin , Robert Haas , pgsql-docs Subject: Re: "Backend server" term usage From: Alvaro Herrera To: Bruce Momjian In-reply-to: <201103111442.p2BEgwh02462@momjian.us> References: <201103111442.p2BEgwh02462@momjian.us> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:00:09 -0300 Message-Id: <1299855507-sup-6440@alvh.no-ip.org> User-Agent: Sup/git Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.107 tagged_above=-5 required=5 tests=BAYES_00=-1.9, RDNS_NONE=0.793 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 201103/71 X-Sequence-Number: 6504 Excerpts from Bruce Momjian's message of vie mar 11 11:42:58 -0300 2011: > Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > Excerpts from Dmitriy Igrishin's message of dom feb 20 06:19:19 -0300 2011: > > > > > Better, undoubtedly. > > > Another alternative is just "server". Why? Well, for consistency, e.g. with > > > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.0/static/errcodes-appendix.html > > > Here you may see phrase "All messages emitted by the PostgreSQL server ..." > > > and furthermore, there are some SQL standard's "SQLSTATE" code > > > which name includes "server" rather than "backend": > > > SQLSERVER REJECTED ESTABLISHMENT OF SQLCONNECTION > > > But anyway, phrase "backend server" is incorrect. > > > > Maybe some cleanup would be good, but in that case please provide a > > specific patch. The replacement suggested in the email that started > > this thread seems OK, but wholesale replacement of the phrase "backend > > server" with something else is likely to introduce as many mistakes as > > it would fix. For example, the description of postgres' -T switch would > > then be wrong. > > > > I think using the protocol chapter as reference for terms to use is a > > bad idea -- it's one of the most obscure chapters in the documentation. > > OK, attached is my proposed patch; it mostly changes "backend server" > to "backend process". Looks good to me, thanks for the effort. This whole thread makes me think that we should consider having a glossary of terms in the docs. -- Álvaro Herrera The PostgreSQL Company - Command Prompt, Inc. PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support