Received: from maia.hub.org (maia-5.hub.org [200.46.204.29]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A89C01337BA3 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 18:38:48 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by maia.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.29]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29301-05 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 21:38:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AF2B21337C1D for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 18:38:21 -0300 (ADT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 May 2011 21:38:21 -0000 Received: from a88-115-218-165.elisa-laajakaista.fi (EHLO [10.0.0.101]) [88.115.218.165] by mail.gmx.net (mp072) with SMTP; 07 May 2011 23:38:21 +0200 X-Authenticated: #495269 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/VpHof0HvVDOxPt//2lq6lMPC+ABYrOvHQ3s/BKF tdLsEAdcvA3zpD Subject: Re: should pg_basebackup be listed as a server application? From: Peter Eisentraut To: Tom Lane Cc: Josh Kupershmidt , Alvaro Herrera , Magnus Hagander , pgsql-docs In-Reply-To: <3880.1304727493@sss.pgh.pa.us> References: <1304702299.28821.1.camel@vanquo.pezone.net> <1304706536-sup-3669@alvh.no-ip.org> <3880.1304727493@sss.pgh.pa.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sun, 08 May 2011 00:38:18 +0300 Message-ID: <1304804298.15989.31.camel@vanquo.pezone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.909 tagged_above=-5 required=5 tests=BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 201105/33 X-Sequence-Number: 6708 On fre, 2011-05-06 at 20:18 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > I'm not entirely sure if the notion of an "administrative" app helps > much, but for sure I've never been satisfied with the equation of "can > in principle execute remotely" with "client". This is a good time to > be rethinking that. One piece of supporting evidence that has been moderately useful over the years is that what we list as server applications are dependent on a particular major version (or the dependency closure of that, to include pg_ctl), whereas clients work with multiple server versions to varying degrees. And another, possibly equivalent, factor is that what you see under "server" is that it packaged in the server package, and what is under "client" is packaged in the client package. That's kind of useful for quickly finding what to install. So where would pg_basebackup fit in according to these two criteria?