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* sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters
@ 2011-08-25 03:28 Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>
2011-08-27 20:48 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Josh Kupershmidt @ 2011-08-25 03:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-docs
I found myself rewriting the ./src/tools/find_gt_lt script in Perl
this evening, since the existing script was quite broken (the main
problem is it's not capable of understanding CDATA or sgml comment
sections, and hence produces a bunch of noise).
The rewritten version picked up a few stylistic inconsistencies in the
SGML, such as:
* breaking the trailing '>' of an SGML marker across lines. AFAIK
this is legal, but is a bit inconsistent and just confuses simplistic
tools like find_gt_lt
* using single quotes instead of double quotes to surround a node
attribute, as in <orderedlist numeration='loweralpha'>
as well as seemingly-invalid SGML, such as using '>' unescaped inside
normal SGML entries.
I've attached a patch to fix these problems. I can send in the new
version of find_gt_lt if these changes prove useful.
Josh
Attachments:
sgml_unescaped_gt.patch (text/x-patch, 16.8K) download
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/datatype.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/datatype.sgml
index 89b531f..f026c7b 100644
*** a/doc/src/sgml/datatype.sgml
--- b/doc/src/sgml/datatype.sgml
*************** SELECT * FROM person WHERE current_mood
*** 2951,2964 ****
<programlisting>
INSERT INTO person VALUES ('Larry', 'sad');
INSERT INTO person VALUES ('Curly', 'ok');
! SELECT * FROM person WHERE current_mood > 'sad';
name | current_mood
-------+--------------
Moe | happy
Curly | ok
(2 rows)
! SELECT * FROM person WHERE current_mood > 'sad' ORDER BY current_mood;
name | current_mood
-------+--------------
Curly | ok
--- 2951,2964 ----
<programlisting>
INSERT INTO person VALUES ('Larry', 'sad');
INSERT INTO person VALUES ('Curly', 'ok');
! SELECT * FROM person WHERE current_mood > 'sad';
name | current_mood
-------+--------------
Moe | happy
Curly | ok
(2 rows)
! SELECT * FROM person WHERE current_mood > 'sad' ORDER BY current_mood;
name | current_mood
-------+--------------
Curly | ok
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/ecpg.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/ecpg.sgml
index 8470122..895403a 100644
*** a/doc/src/sgml/ecpg.sgml
--- b/doc/src/sgml/ecpg.sgml
*************** CREATE TABLE t3 (
*** 1416,1422 ****
ii integer[]
);
! testdb=> SELECT * FROM t3;
ii
-------------
{1,2,3,4,5}
--- 1416,1422 ----
ii integer[]
);
! testdb=> SELECT * FROM t3;
ii
-------------
{1,2,3,4,5}
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/hstore.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/hstore.sgml
index aa21295..0f1b6b4 100644
*** a/doc/src/sgml/hstore.sgml
--- b/doc/src/sgml/hstore.sgml
*************** b
*** 380,386 ****
<entry><type>hstore</type></entry>
<entry>delete pair with matching key</entry>
<entry><literal>delete('a=>1,b=>2','b')</literal></entry>
! <entry><literal>"a"=>"1"</literal></entry>
</row>
<row>
--- 380,386 ----
<entry><type>hstore</type></entry>
<entry>delete pair with matching key</entry>
<entry><literal>delete('a=>1,b=>2','b')</literal></entry>
! <entry><literal>"a"=>"1"</literal></entry>
</row>
<row>
*************** b
*** 388,394 ****
<entry><type>hstore</type></entry>
<entry>delete pairs with matching keys</entry>
<entry><literal>delete('a=>1,b=>2,c=>3',ARRAY['a','b'])</literal></entry>
! <entry><literal>"c"=>"3"</literal></entry>
</row>
<row>
--- 388,394 ----
<entry><type>hstore</type></entry>
<entry>delete pairs with matching keys</entry>
<entry><literal>delete('a=>1,b=>2,c=>3',ARRAY['a','b'])</literal></entry>
! <entry><literal>"c"=>"3"</literal></entry>
</row>
<row>
*************** b
*** 396,402 ****
<entry><type>hstore</type></entry>
<entry>delete pairs matching those in the second argument</entry>
<entry><literal>delete('a=>1,b=>2','a=>4,b=>2'::hstore)</literal></entry>
! <entry><literal>"a"=>"1"</literal></entry>
</row>
<row>
--- 396,402 ----
<entry><type>hstore</type></entry>
<entry>delete pairs matching those in the second argument</entry>
<entry><literal>delete('a=>1,b=>2','a=>4,b=>2'::hstore)</literal></entry>
! <entry><literal>"a"=>"1"</literal></entry>
</row>
<row>
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/ltree.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/ltree.sgml
index 0a91cd7..06b262b 100644
*** a/doc/src/sgml/ltree.sgml
--- b/doc/src/sgml/ltree.sgml
*************** a. b. c. d. e.
*** 108,114 ****
</programlisting>
This query will match any label path that:
</para>
! <orderedlist numeration='loweralpha'>
<listitem>
<para>
begins with the label <literal>Top</literal>
--- 108,114 ----
</programlisting>
This query will match any label path that:
</para>
! <orderedlist numeration="loweralpha">
<listitem>
<para>
begins with the label <literal>Top</literal>
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/pgarchivecleanup.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/pgarchivecleanup.sgml
index ddffa32..4602544 100644
*** a/doc/src/sgml/pgarchivecleanup.sgml
--- b/doc/src/sgml/pgarchivecleanup.sgml
*************** pg_archivecleanup: removing file "archi
*** 108,114 ****
<para>On Linux or Unix systems, you might use:
<programlisting>
! archive_cleanup_command = 'pg_archivecleanup -d /mnt/standby/archive %r 2>>cleanup.log'
</programlisting>
where the archive directory is physically located on the standby server,
so that the <varname>archive_command</> is accessing it across NFS,
--- 108,114 ----
<para>On Linux or Unix systems, you might use:
<programlisting>
! archive_cleanup_command = 'pg_archivecleanup -d /mnt/standby/archive %r 2>>cleanup.log'
</programlisting>
where the archive directory is physically located on the standby server,
so that the <varname>archive_command</> is accessing it across NFS,
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/pgcrypto.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/pgcrypto.sgml
index 6b78f2c..9abbc34 100644
*** a/doc/src/sgml/pgcrypto.sgml
--- b/doc/src/sgml/pgcrypto.sgml
*************** gpg --list-secret-keys
*** 827,839 ****
<para>
To export a public key in ASCII-armor format:
<programlisting>
! gpg -a --export KEYID > public.key
</programlisting>
</para>
<para>
To export a secret key in ASCII-armor format:
<programlisting>
! gpg -a --export-secret-keys KEYID > secret.key
</programlisting>
</para>
<para>
--- 827,839 ----
<para>
To export a public key in ASCII-armor format:
<programlisting>
! gpg -a --export KEYID > public.key
</programlisting>
</para>
<para>
To export a secret key in ASCII-armor format:
<programlisting>
! gpg -a --export-secret-keys KEYID > secret.key
</programlisting>
</para>
<para>
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/pgstandby.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/pgstandby.sgml
index e698cb7..e68bd50 100644
*** a/doc/src/sgml/pgstandby.sgml
--- b/doc/src/sgml/pgstandby.sgml
*************** pg_standby <optional> <replaceable>optio
*** 236,242 ****
<programlisting>
archive_command = 'cp %p .../archive/%f'
! restore_command = 'pg_standby -d -s 2 -t /tmp/pgsql.trigger.5442 .../archive %f %p %r 2>>standby.log'
recovery_end_command = 'rm -f /tmp/pgsql.trigger.5442'
</programlisting>
--- 236,242 ----
<programlisting>
archive_command = 'cp %p .../archive/%f'
! restore_command = 'pg_standby -d -s 2 -t /tmp/pgsql.trigger.5442 .../archive %f %p %r 2>>standby.log'
recovery_end_command = 'rm -f /tmp/pgsql.trigger.5442'
</programlisting>
*************** recovery_end_command = 'rm -f /tmp/pgsql
*** 280,286 ****
<programlisting>
archive_command = 'copy %p ...\\archive\\%f'
! restore_command = 'pg_standby -d -s 5 -t C:\pgsql.trigger.5442 ...\archive %f %p %r 2>>standby.log'
recovery_end_command = 'del C:\pgsql.trigger.5442'
</programlisting>
--- 280,286 ----
<programlisting>
archive_command = 'copy %p ...\\archive\\%f'
! restore_command = 'pg_standby -d -s 5 -t C:\pgsql.trigger.5442 ...\archive %f %p %r 2>>standby.log'
recovery_end_command = 'del C:\pgsql.trigger.5442'
</programlisting>
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/pgstattuple.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/pgstattuple.sgml
index a55b35c..cd1302e 100644
*** a/doc/src/sgml/pgstattuple.sgml
--- b/doc/src/sgml/pgstattuple.sgml
***************
*** 29,35 ****
target relation's name (optionally schema-qualified).
For example:
<programlisting>
! test=> SELECT * FROM pgstattuple('pg_catalog.pg_proc');
-[ RECORD 1 ]------+-------
table_len | 458752
tuple_count | 1470
--- 29,35 ----
target relation's name (optionally schema-qualified).
For example:
<programlisting>
! test=> SELECT * FROM pgstattuple('pg_catalog.pg_proc');
-[ RECORD 1 ]------+-------
table_len | 458752
tuple_count | 1470
*************** free_percent | 1.95
*** 142,148 ****
<function>pgstatindex</function> returns a record showing information
about a B-tree index. For example:
<programlisting>
! test=> SELECT * FROM pgstatindex('pg_cast_oid_index');
-[ RECORD 1 ]------+------
version | 2
tree_level | 0
--- 142,148 ----
<function>pgstatindex</function> returns a record showing information
about a B-tree index. For example:
<programlisting>
! test=> SELECT * FROM pgstatindex('pg_cast_oid_index');
-[ RECORD 1 ]------+------
version | 2
tree_level | 0
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/plhandler.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/plhandler.sgml
index 20021bc..54b88ef 100644
*** a/doc/src/sgml/plhandler.sgml
--- b/doc/src/sgml/plhandler.sgml
*************** CREATE LANGUAGE plsample
*** 166,173 ****
to allow language-specific checking to be done during
<xref linkend="sql-createfunction">.
An inline handler can be provided to allow the language to support
! anonymous code blocks executed via the <xref linkend="sql-do"
! > command.
</para>
<para>
--- 166,172 ----
to allow language-specific checking to be done during
<xref linkend="sql-createfunction">.
An inline handler can be provided to allow the language to support
! anonymous code blocks executed via the <xref linkend="sql-do"> command.
</para>
<para>
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/ref/create_table_as.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/ref/create_table_as.sgml
index e4797b6..3e501a5 100644
*** a/doc/src/sgml/ref/create_table_as.sgml
--- b/doc/src/sgml/ref/create_table_as.sgml
*************** CREATE [ [ GLOBAL | LOCAL ] { TEMPORARY
*** 204,211 ****
<term><replaceable>query</replaceable></term>
<listitem>
<para>
! A <xref linkend="sql-select"
! >, <link linkend="sql-table">TABLE</link>,
or
<xref linkend="sql-values"> command,
or an <xref linkend="sql-execute"> command
--- 204,210 ----
<term><replaceable>query</replaceable></term>
<listitem>
<para>
! A <xref linkend="sql-select">, <link linkend="sql-table">TABLE</link>,
or
<xref linkend="sql-values"> command,
or an <xref linkend="sql-execute"> command
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/ref/rollback_to.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/ref/rollback_to.sgml
index 1b59af6..97036e4 100644
*** a/doc/src/sgml/ref/rollback_to.sgml
--- b/doc/src/sgml/ref/rollback_to.sgml
*************** ROLLBACK [ WORK | TRANSACTION ] TO [ SAV
*** 64,71 ****
<title>Notes</title>
<para>
! Use <xref linkend="SQL-RELEASE-SAVEPOINT"
! > to destroy a savepoint without
discarding the effects of commands executed after it was established.
</para>
--- 64,70 ----
<title>Notes</title>
<para>
! Use <xref linkend="SQL-RELEASE-SAVEPOINT"> to destroy a savepoint without
discarding the effects of commands executed after it was established.
</para>
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/rules.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/rules.sgml
index 1b06519..f54ca91 100644
*** a/doc/src/sgml/rules.sgml
--- b/doc/src/sgml/rules.sgml
*************** CREATE VIEW phone_number AS
*** 1839,1845 ****
<programlisting>
CREATE FUNCTION tricky(text, text) RETURNS bool AS $$
BEGIN
! RAISE NOTICE '% => %', $1, $2;
RETURN true;
END
$$ LANGUAGE plpgsql COST 0.0000000000000000000001;
--- 1839,1845 ----
<programlisting>
CREATE FUNCTION tricky(text, text) RETURNS bool AS $$
BEGIN
! RAISE NOTICE '% => %', $1, $2;
RETURN true;
END
$$ LANGUAGE plpgsql COST 0.0000000000000000000001;
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/runtime.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/runtime.sgml
index 8f85df6..31d9347 100644
*** a/doc/src/sgml/runtime.sgml
--- b/doc/src/sgml/runtime.sgml
*************** sysctl -w vm.overcommit_memory=2
*** 1336,1342 ****
thereby guaranteeing it will not be targeted by the OOM killer. The
simplest way to do this is to execute
<programlisting>
! echo -17 > /proc/self/oom_adj
</programlisting>
in the postmaster's startup script just before invoking the postmaster.
Note that this action must be done as root, or it will have no effect;
--- 1336,1342 ----
thereby guaranteeing it will not be targeted by the OOM killer. The
simplest way to do this is to execute
<programlisting>
! echo -17 > /proc/self/oom_adj
</programlisting>
in the postmaster's startup script just before invoking the postmaster.
Note that this action must be done as root, or it will have no effect;
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/seg.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/seg.sgml
index 00bd71d..5d1f546 100644
*** a/doc/src/sgml/seg.sgml
--- b/doc/src/sgml/seg.sgml
***************
*** 40,46 ****
when you fetch it? Watch:
<screen>
! test=> select 6.50 :: float8 as "pH";
pH
---
6.5
--- 40,46 ----
when you fetch it? Watch:
<screen>
! test=> select 6.50 :: float8 as "pH";
pH
---
6.5
*************** test=> select 6.50 :: float8 as "pH";
*** 66,72 ****
Check this out:
<screen>
! test=> select '6.25 .. 6.50'::seg as "pH";
pH
------------
6.25 .. 6.50
--- 66,72 ----
Check this out:
<screen>
! test=> select '6.25 .. 6.50'::seg as "pH";
pH
------------
6.25 .. 6.50
*************** test=> select '6.25 .. 6.50'::seg as "pH
*** 359,365 ****
boundary if the resulting interval includes a power of ten:
<screen>
! postgres=> select '10(+-)1'::seg as seg;
seg
---------
9.0 .. 11 -- should be: 9 .. 11
--- 359,365 ----
boundary if the resulting interval includes a power of ten:
<screen>
! postgres=> select '10(+-)1'::seg as seg;
seg
---------
9.0 .. 11 -- should be: 9 .. 11
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/textsearch.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/textsearch.sgml
index dba5bd6..ef228e3 100644
*** a/doc/src/sgml/textsearch.sgml
--- b/doc/src/sgml/textsearch.sgml
*************** ts_headline(<optional> <replaceable clas
*** 1092,1098 ****
if they contain spaces or commas.
</para>
</listitem>
! <listitem >
<para>
<literal>MaxWords</>, <literal>MinWords</literal>: these numbers
determine the longest and shortest headlines to output.
--- 1092,1098 ----
if they contain spaces or commas.
</para>
</listitem>
! <listitem>
<para>
<literal>MaxWords</>, <literal>MinWords</literal>: these numbers
determine the longest and shortest headlines to output.
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/user-manag.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/user-manag.sgml
index d96ff77..8508dd1 100644
*** a/doc/src/sgml/user-manag.sgml
--- b/doc/src/sgml/user-manag.sgml
*************** CREATE USER <replaceable>name</replaceab
*** 244,252 ****
A role's attributes can be modified after creation with
<command>ALTER ROLE</command>.<indexterm><primary>ALTER ROLE</></>
! See the reference pages for the <xref linkend="sql-createrole"
! > and <xref linkend="sql-alterrole"
! > commands for details.
</para>
<tip>
--- 244,251 ----
A role's attributes can be modified after creation with
<command>ALTER ROLE</command>.<indexterm><primary>ALTER ROLE</></>
! See the reference pages for the <xref linkend="sql-createrole"> and
! <xref linkend="sql-alterrole"> commands for details.
</para>
<tip>
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/xml2.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/xml2.sgml
index 47bac31..0ec55fc 100644
*** a/doc/src/sgml/xml2.sgml
--- b/doc/src/sgml/xml2.sgml
*************** xpath_table('article_id',
*** 297,303 ****
'article_xml',
'articles',
'/article/author|/article/pages|/article/title',
! 'date_entered > ''2003-01-01'' ')
AS t(article_id integer, author text, page_count integer, title text);
</programlisting>
The <literal>AS</> clause defines the names and types of the columns in the
--- 297,303 ----
'article_xml',
'articles',
'/article/author|/article/pages|/article/title',
! 'date_entered > ''2003-01-01'' ')
AS t(article_id integer, author text, page_count integer, title text);
</programlisting>
The <literal>AS</> clause defines the names and types of the columns in the
*************** AS t(article_id integer, author text, pa
*** 329,335 ****
SELECT t.title, p.fullname, p.email
FROM xpath_table('article_id', 'article_xml', 'articles',
'/article/title|/article/author/@id',
! 'xpath_string(article_xml,''/article/@date'') > ''2003-03-20'' ')
AS t(article_id integer, title text, author_id integer),
tblPeopleInfo AS p
WHERE t.author_id = p.person_id;
--- 329,335 ----
SELECT t.title, p.fullname, p.email
FROM xpath_table('article_id', 'article_xml', 'articles',
'/article/title|/article/author/@id',
! 'xpath_string(article_xml,''/article/@date'') > ''2003-03-20'' ')
AS t(article_id integer, title text, author_id integer),
tblPeopleInfo AS p
WHERE t.author_id = p.person_id;
* Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters
2011-08-25 03:28 sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>
@ 2011-08-27 20:48 ` Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-08-29 23:22 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2011-08-27 20:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>; +Cc: pgsql-docs
On ons, 2011-08-24 at 23:28 -0400, Josh Kupershmidt wrote:
> I found myself rewriting the ./src/tools/find_gt_lt script in Perl
> this evening, since the existing script was quite broken (the main
> problem is it's not capable of understanding CDATA or sgml comment
> sections, and hence produces a bunch of noise).
>
> The rewritten version picked up a few stylistic inconsistencies in the
> SGML, such as:
> * breaking the trailing '>' of an SGML marker across lines. AFAIK
> this is legal, but is a bit inconsistent and just confuses simplistic
> tools like find_gt_lt
The cases you show don't appear to be terribly useful, but I think on
occasion this can be necessary to work around some arcane whitespace
rules in SGML or XML. (Just look at the generated HTML; it uses this
technique throughout.)
> * using single quotes instead of double quotes to surround a node
> attribute, as in <orderedlist numeration='loweralpha'>
It would be better if the tool could handle that, because sometimes you
want to use single quotes if the value contains double quotes.
> as well as seemingly-invalid SGML, such as using '>' unescaped inside
> normal SGML entries.
Unescaped > is valid, AFAIK.
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* Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters
2011-08-25 03:28 sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>
2011-08-27 20:48 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
@ 2011-08-29 23:22 ` Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>
2011-08-30 17:36 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Josh Kupershmidt @ 2011-08-29 23:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>; +Cc: pgsql-docs
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net> wrote:
> On ons, 2011-08-24 at 23:28 -0400, Josh Kupershmidt wrote:
>> I found myself rewriting the ./src/tools/find_gt_lt script in Perl
>> this evening, since the existing script was quite broken (the main
>> problem is it's not capable of understanding CDATA or sgml comment
>> sections, and hence produces a bunch of noise).
>>
>> The rewritten version picked up a few stylistic inconsistencies in the
>> SGML, such as:
>> * breaking the trailing '>' of an SGML marker across lines. AFAIK
>> this is legal, but is a bit inconsistent and just confuses simplistic
>> tools like find_gt_lt
>
> The cases you show don't appear to be terribly useful, but I think on
> occasion this can be necessary to work around some arcane whitespace
> rules in SGML or XML. (Just look at the generated HTML; it uses this
> technique throughout.)
Hrm, well if the spurious whitespace isn't serving any purpose in
these cases, why not just fix it to match the rest of SGML style?
>> * using single quotes instead of double quotes to surround a node
>> attribute, as in <orderedlist numeration='loweralpha'>
>
> It would be better if the tool could handle that, because sometimes you
> want to use single quotes if the value contains double quotes.
It's trivial to adjust the regex I was using to ignore such cases. I'm
just on about stylistic consistency here. If there's a reason to use
single quotes, such as when the value contains double quotes, then
that's fine -- but I don't think any of the cases I pointed out fall
under that category.
>> as well as seemingly-invalid SGML, such as using '>' unescaped inside
>> normal SGML entries.
>
> Unescaped > is valid, AFAIK.
Oh, that's interesting. I took a quick look at "The SGML FAQ book",
page 73 [1], which supports this claim.
But I notice we've been fixing such issues in the recent past (e.g.
commit d420ba2a2d4ea4831f89a3fd7ce86b05eff932ff). Don't we want to
continue doing so? Not to mention the fact that we have
./src/tools/find_gt_lt, which while somewhat broken, has the
ostensible goal of finding such problems in the SGML. Or do we want to
stop worrying about '>' entirely, and rename find_gt_lt to find_lt,
instead?
Josh
[1] http://books.google.com/books?id=OyJHFJsnh10C&lpg=PA229&ots=DGkYDdvbhE&pg=PA73#v=onepage...
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* Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters
2011-08-25 03:28 sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>
2011-08-27 20:48 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-08-29 23:22 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>
@ 2011-08-30 17:36 ` Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-09-01 14:17 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2011-08-30 17:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>; +Cc: pgsql-docs
On mån, 2011-08-29 at 18:22 -0500, Josh Kupershmidt wrote:
> >> The rewritten version picked up a few stylistic inconsistencies in the
> >> SGML, such as:
> >> * breaking the trailing '>' of an SGML marker across lines. AFAIK
> >> this is legal, but is a bit inconsistent and just confuses simplistic
> >> tools like find_gt_lt
> >
> > The cases you show don't appear to be terribly useful, but I think on
> > occasion this can be necessary to work around some arcane whitespace
> > rules in SGML or XML. (Just look at the generated HTML; it uses this
> > technique throughout.)
>
> Hrm, well if the spurious whitespace isn't serving any purpose in
> these cases, why not just fix it to match the rest of SGML style?
>
> >> * using single quotes instead of double quotes to surround a node
> >> attribute, as in <orderedlist numeration='loweralpha'>
> >
> > It would be better if the tool could handle that, because sometimes you
> > want to use single quotes if the value contains double quotes.
>
> It's trivial to adjust the regex I was using to ignore such cases. I'm
> just on about stylistic consistency here. If there's a reason to use
> single quotes, such as when the value contains double quotes, then
> that's fine -- but I don't think any of the cases I pointed out fall
> under that category.
I have committed your fixes relevant to these two points.
> >> as well as seemingly-invalid SGML, such as using '>' unescaped inside
> >> normal SGML entries.
> >
> > Unescaped > is valid, AFAIK.
>
> Oh, that's interesting. I took a quick look at "The SGML FAQ book",
> page 73 [1], which supports this claim.
>
> But I notice we've been fixing such issues in the recent past (e.g.
> commit d420ba2a2d4ea4831f89a3fd7ce86b05eff932ff). Don't we want to
> continue doing so? Not to mention the fact that we have
> ./src/tools/find_gt_lt, which while somewhat broken, has the
> ostensible goal of finding such problems in the SGML. Or do we want to
> stop worrying about '>' entirely, and rename find_gt_lt to find_lt,
> instead?
> [1] http://books.google.com/books?id=OyJHFJsnh10C&lpg=PA229&ots=DGkYDdvbhE&pg=PA73#v=onepage...
I don't know what the rationale for this tool is. I have never used it.
Clearly, the reference shows, and the tools we use confirm, that it is
not necessary to use it.
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* Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters
2011-08-25 03:28 sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>
2011-08-27 20:48 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-08-29 23:22 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>
2011-08-30 17:36 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
@ 2011-09-01 14:17 ` Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2011-09-01 18:14 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Bruce Momjian @ 2011-09-01 14:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>; +Cc: Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>; pgsql-docs
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> > >> as well as seemingly-invalid SGML, such as using '>' unescaped inside
> > >> normal SGML entries.
> > >
> > > Unescaped > is valid, AFAIK.
> >
> > Oh, that's interesting. I took a quick look at "The SGML FAQ book",
> > page 73 [1], which supports this claim.
> >
> > But I notice we've been fixing such issues in the recent past (e.g.
> > commit d420ba2a2d4ea4831f89a3fd7ce86b05eff932ff). Don't we want to
> > continue doing so? Not to mention the fact that we have
> > ./src/tools/find_gt_lt, which while somewhat broken, has the
> > ostensible goal of finding such problems in the SGML. Or do we want to
> > stop worrying about '>' entirely, and rename find_gt_lt to find_lt,
> > instead?
>
> > [1] http://books.google.com/books?id=OyJHFJsnh10C&lpg=PA229&ots=DGkYDdvbhE&pg=PA73#v=onepage...
>
> I don't know what the rationale for this tool is. I have never used it.
> Clearly, the reference shows, and the tools we use confirm, that it is
> not necessary to use it.
I have updated the scripts and instructions accordingly.
--
Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> http://momjian.us
EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com
+ It's impossible for everything to be true. +
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* Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters
2011-08-25 03:28 sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>
2011-08-27 20:48 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-08-29 23:22 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>
2011-08-30 17:36 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-09-01 14:17 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
@ 2011-09-01 18:14 ` Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-09-01 18:17 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2011-09-01 18:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>; +Cc: Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>; pgsql-docs
On tor, 2011-09-01 at 10:17 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> > > >> as well as seemingly-invalid SGML, such as using '>' unescaped inside
> > > >> normal SGML entries.
> > > >
> > > > Unescaped > is valid, AFAIK.
> > >
> > > Oh, that's interesting. I took a quick look at "The SGML FAQ book",
> > > page 73 [1], which supports this claim.
> > >
> > > But I notice we've been fixing such issues in the recent past (e.g.
> > > commit d420ba2a2d4ea4831f89a3fd7ce86b05eff932ff). Don't we want to
> > > continue doing so? Not to mention the fact that we have
> > > ./src/tools/find_gt_lt, which while somewhat broken, has the
> > > ostensible goal of finding such problems in the SGML. Or do we want to
> > > stop worrying about '>' entirely, and rename find_gt_lt to find_lt,
> > > instead?
> >
> > > [1] http://books.google.com/books?id=OyJHFJsnh10C&lpg=PA229&ots=DGkYDdvbhE&pg=PA73#v=onepage...
> >
> > I don't know what the rationale for this tool is. I have never used it.
> > Clearly, the reference shows, and the tools we use confirm, that it is
> > not necessary to use it.
>
> I have updated the scripts and instructions accordingly.
That still leaves open why we bother about escaping <.
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* Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters
2011-08-25 03:28 sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>
2011-08-27 20:48 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-08-29 23:22 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>
2011-08-30 17:36 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-09-01 14:17 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2011-09-01 18:14 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
@ 2011-09-01 18:17 ` Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2011-09-01 21:16 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Bruce Momjian @ 2011-09-01 18:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>; +Cc: Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>; pgsql-docs
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> On tor, 2011-09-01 at 10:17 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> > > > >> as well as seemingly-invalid SGML, such as using '>' unescaped inside
> > > > >> normal SGML entries.
> > > > >
> > > > > Unescaped > is valid, AFAIK.
> > > >
> > > > Oh, that's interesting. I took a quick look at "The SGML FAQ book",
> > > > page 73 [1], which supports this claim.
> > > >
> > > > But I notice we've been fixing such issues in the recent past (e.g.
> > > > commit d420ba2a2d4ea4831f89a3fd7ce86b05eff932ff). Don't we want to
> > > > continue doing so? Not to mention the fact that we have
> > > > ./src/tools/find_gt_lt, which while somewhat broken, has the
> > > > ostensible goal of finding such problems in the SGML. Or do we want to
> > > > stop worrying about '>' entirely, and rename find_gt_lt to find_lt,
> > > > instead?
> > >
> > > > [1] http://books.google.com/books?id=OyJHFJsnh10C&lpg=PA229&ots=DGkYDdvbhE&pg=PA73#v=onepage...
> > >
> > > I don't know what the rationale for this tool is. I have never used it.
> > > Clearly, the reference shows, and the tools we use confirm, that it is
> > > not necessary to use it.
> >
> > I have updated the scripts and instructions accordingly.
>
> That still leaves open why we bother about escaping <.
The problem is that I often add SGML that has:
if (1 < 0) ...
I need something to warn me about those, especially in the release
notes.
--
Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> http://momjian.us
EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com
+ It's impossible for everything to be true. +
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* Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters
2011-08-25 03:28 sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>
2011-08-27 20:48 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-08-29 23:22 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>
2011-08-30 17:36 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-09-01 14:17 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2011-09-01 18:14 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-09-01 18:17 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
@ 2011-09-01 21:16 ` Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-09-01 21:31 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2011-09-01 21:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>; +Cc: Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>; pgsql-docs
On tor, 2011-09-01 at 14:17 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > That still leaves open why we bother about escaping <.
>
> The problem is that I often add SGML that has:
>
> if (1 < 0) ...
>
> I need something to warn me about those, especially in the release
> notes.
Why do you need to be warned about that?
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* Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters
2011-08-25 03:28 sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>
2011-08-27 20:48 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-08-29 23:22 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>
2011-08-30 17:36 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-09-01 14:17 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2011-09-01 18:14 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-09-01 18:17 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2011-09-01 21:16 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
@ 2011-09-01 21:31 ` Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2011-09-02 14:37 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Bruce Momjian @ 2011-09-01 21:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>; +Cc: Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>; pgsql-docs
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> On tor, 2011-09-01 at 14:17 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > That still leaves open why we bother about escaping <.
> >
> > The problem is that I often add SGML that has:
> >
> > if (1 < 0) ...
> >
> > I need something to warn me about those, especially in the release
> > notes.
>
> Why do you need to be warned about that?
If I have:
if (1 < fred)
it will think "fred" is a SGML tag, no?
--
Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> http://momjian.us
EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com
+ It's impossible for everything to be true. +
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* Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters
2011-08-25 03:28 sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>
2011-08-27 20:48 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-08-29 23:22 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>
2011-08-30 17:36 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-09-01 14:17 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2011-09-01 18:14 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-09-01 18:17 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2011-09-01 21:16 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-09-01 21:31 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
@ 2011-09-02 14:37 ` Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-09-03 20:47 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2011-09-02 14:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>; +Cc: Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>; pgsql-docs
On tor, 2011-09-01 at 17:31 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> > On tor, 2011-09-01 at 14:17 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > > That still leaves open why we bother about escaping <.
> > >
> > > The problem is that I often add SGML that has:
> > >
> > > if (1 < 0) ...
> > >
> > > I need something to warn me about those, especially in the release
> > > notes.
> >
> > Why do you need to be warned about that?
>
> If I have:
>
> if (1 < fred)
>
> it will think "fred" is a SGML tag, no?
No, a < followed by a space is not a tag, it's character data. If it
thought it were a tag, it would complain.
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* Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters
2011-08-25 03:28 sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>
2011-08-27 20:48 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-08-29 23:22 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>
2011-08-30 17:36 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-09-01 14:17 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2011-09-01 18:14 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-09-01 18:17 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2011-09-01 21:16 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-09-01 21:31 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2011-09-02 14:37 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
@ 2011-09-03 20:47 ` Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2011-09-03 22:22 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Bruce Momjian @ 2011-09-03 20:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>; +Cc: Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>; pgsql-docs
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> On tor, 2011-09-01 at 17:31 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> > > On tor, 2011-09-01 at 14:17 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > > > That still leaves open why we bother about escaping <.
> > > >
> > > > The problem is that I often add SGML that has:
> > > >
> > > > if (1 < 0) ...
> > > >
> > > > I need something to warn me about those, especially in the release
> > > > notes.
> > >
> > > Why do you need to be warned about that?
> >
> > If I have:
> >
> > if (1 < fred)
> >
> > it will think "fred" is a SGML tag, no?
>
> No, a < followed by a space is not a tag, it's character data. If it
> thought it were a tag, it would complain.
Sometimes it is '<' (in single quotes), which I thought would be a
problem.
--
Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> http://momjian.us
EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com
+ It's impossible for everything to be true. +
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* Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters
2011-08-25 03:28 sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>
2011-08-27 20:48 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-08-29 23:22 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>
2011-08-30 17:36 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-09-01 14:17 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2011-09-01 18:14 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-09-01 18:17 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2011-09-01 21:16 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-09-01 21:31 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2011-09-02 14:37 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-09-03 20:47 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
@ 2011-09-03 22:22 ` Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-09-03 23:09 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2011-09-03 22:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>; +Cc: Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>; pgsql-docs
On lör, 2011-09-03 at 16:47 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> > On tor, 2011-09-01 at 17:31 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> > > > On tor, 2011-09-01 at 14:17 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > > > > That still leaves open why we bother about escaping <.
> > > > >
> > > > > The problem is that I often add SGML that has:
> > > > >
> > > > > if (1 < 0) ...
> > > > >
> > > > > I need something to warn me about those, especially in the release
> > > > > notes.
> > > >
> > > > Why do you need to be warned about that?
> > >
> > > If I have:
> > >
> > > if (1 < fred)
> > >
> > > it will think "fred" is a SGML tag, no?
> >
> > No, a < followed by a space is not a tag, it's character data. If it
> > thought it were a tag, it would complain.
>
> Sometimes it is '<' (in single quotes), which I thought would be a
> problem.
The bottom line is, the SGML parser can figure that out itself, and if
it has a problem, it will complain. We don't need to second guess it
with regular expressions that are handcrafted out of thin air.
I was hoping you would remember whether you initially put this in
because of some tool problem. But if we are not finding any supporting
evidence, I would suggest that we just scrap this thing entirely.
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* Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters
2011-08-25 03:28 sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>
2011-08-27 20:48 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-08-29 23:22 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>
2011-08-30 17:36 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-09-01 14:17 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2011-09-01 18:14 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-09-01 18:17 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2011-09-01 21:16 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-09-01 21:31 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2011-09-02 14:37 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
2011-09-03 20:47 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2011-09-03 22:22 ` Re: sgml cleanup: unescaped '>' characters Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
@ 2011-09-03 23:09 ` Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Bruce Momjian @ 2011-09-03 23:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>; +Cc: Josh Kupershmidt <schmiddy@gmail.com>; pgsql-docs
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> On l?r, 2011-09-03 at 16:47 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> > > On tor, 2011-09-01 at 17:31 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > > Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> > > > > On tor, 2011-09-01 at 14:17 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > > > > > That still leaves open why we bother about escaping <.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The problem is that I often add SGML that has:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > if (1 < 0) ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I need something to warn me about those, especially in the release
> > > > > > notes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why do you need to be warned about that?
> > > >
> > > > If I have:
> > > >
> > > > if (1 < fred)
> > > >
> > > > it will think "fred" is a SGML tag, no?
> > >
> > > No, a < followed by a space is not a tag, it's character data. If it
> > > thought it were a tag, it would complain.
> >
> > Sometimes it is '<' (in single quotes), which I thought would be a
> > problem.
>
> The bottom line is, the SGML parser can figure that out itself, and if
> it has a problem, it will complain. We don't need to second guess it
> with regular expressions that are handcrafted out of thin air.
>
> I was hoping you would remember whether you initially put this in
> because of some tool problem. But if we are not finding any supporting
> evidence, I would suggest that we just scrap this thing entirely.
I put it in to warn about release.sgml markup problems, so I properly
escaped all non-tag '>' and '<' characters.
I have removed the tool. We can always re-add it if we find it is
needed.
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+ It's impossible for everything to be true. +
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