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To: josh@agliodbs.com
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Subject: Re: [DOCS] Avoiding upgrade backlash 
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Comments: In-reply-to Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
	message dated "Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:42:30 -0800"
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:04:12 -0500
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From: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> writes:
> While we are right to choke down abuse of implicit casting, it might be a 
> good idea to give users stronger warnings and instructions.  

> I'm thinking that we need to warn everyone about:
> 1) They need to use 8.3's pg_dump, not the old version, to upgrade (this is 
> always true but now doing it wrong will break a lot more users).

Uh, what makes you think that will make any difference?

> 3) If Robert gets his type-cast backport package together, the location of 
> that.

The very *last* thing I want to see is encouragement of people trying to
undo that change.

			regards, tom lane