Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ab7tG-0002pi-5b for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2016 14:36:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1ab7tF-0000kn-Oa for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2016 14:36:37 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1ab7tF-0000kf-FV for pgsql-docs@postgresql.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2016 14:36:37 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1ab7tC-0007xn-Mx for pgsql-docs@postgresql.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2016 14:36:37 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id u22EaWjJ014673; Wed, 2 Mar 2016 09:36:32 -0500 From: Tom Lane To: Maciek Sakrejda cc: pgsql-docs@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Getting Started section In-reply-to: References: Comments: In-reply-to Maciek Sakrejda message dated "Wed, 02 Mar 2016 00:07:35 -0800" Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2016 09:36:32 -0500 Message-ID: <14672.1456929392@sss.pgh.pa.us> X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-docs Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-docs-owner@postgresql.org Maciek Sakrejda writes: > I just spent some time helping a former colleague work out some basic setup > issues after he got stuck trying to follow the Getting Started section of > the manual [1] and almost gave up. For what it's worth, he's very > technical, but does not deal with Postgres setup regularly. > ... > Obviously this is not a solution for everyone, but I think packaging is > more common and more standardized these days, and administrators who may > have set up Postgres for you and can help you get started are less common. Agreed, but I should think that properly packaged versions of Postgres will come with some package-specific instructions. Is that missing in Debian's version, or out of date, or did he just not read it? It might not be a bad thing for us to add some text near the head of "Getting Started" pointing out that it's meant for manual installations, and encouraging people to look to package-specific docs when present. regards, tom lane -- Sent via pgsql-docs mailing list (pgsql-docs@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-docs