Received: from candle.pha.pa.us (nav-43.dsl.navpoint.com [162.33.245.46]) by mail.postgresql.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eA4KdFs83887 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 15:39:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from pgman@candle.pha.pa.us) Received: (from pgman@localhost) by candle.pha.pa.us (8.9.0/8.9.0) id PAA04036; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 15:39:05 -0500 (EST) From: Bruce Momjian Message-Id: <200011042039.PAA04036@candle.pha.pa.us> Subject: Re: the docs, and newbies. In-Reply-To: "from Jeff MacDonald at Nov 4, 2000 04:24:57 pm" To: Jeff MacDonald Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 15:39:05 -0500 (EST) CC: pgsql-docs@postgresql.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL77 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200011/6 X-Sequence-Number: 9 I wonder if we should call this the PostgreSQL "special" users, rather than super? > Hi, > > Yesterday, here at Pg.Inc I got a call from a prospective user > about the documentation of Postgres. Particulary the install > docs. > > The user brought up some points, that I always took for granted > as "an experienced" unix user. Such as when it said "create a > superuser for postgresql" .. > > I know the first time i read this part of the docs i thought > to myself .. hrmm do they mean auser with root privileges, but > a different name, or just an ordinary user to do postgres stuff ? > > However the user said that to completly new users of [u | li]nux > even adding a new user is something that not everyone wants. > > he said, that alot of people want to just be able to get a database > running, and be able to do sql.. and not deal with the "system" as much. > > in my mind.. i can justify to my self "that's just not the way unix works" > > but to alot of people out there that don't have propeller hats like > us.. it's not the way they expect htings to work. > > just wondering if there is any thoughts people have to make the install > directions more appealing to "get people in" but at the same time > experienced UNIX users can just ignore certain parts of the docs.. > > ok well that was long winded.. > > Jeff MacDonald, > > ----------------------------------------------------- > PostgreSQL Inc | Hub.Org Networking Services > jeff@pgsql.com | jeff@hub.org > www.pgsql.com | www.hub.org > 1-902-542-0713 | 1-902-542-3657 > ----------------------------------------------------- > Facsimile : 1 902 542 5386 > IRC Nick : bignose > > -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026