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* Differences in crypt hash?
@ 2001-08-04 01:41 Richard Hodges <rh@matriplex.com>
  2001-08-04 17:05 ` Re: Differences in crypt hash? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread

From: Richard Hodges @ 2001-08-04 01:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-docs

Hi all,

I am trying to figure out exactly what is going on with a client
that I have just compiled for Solaris 2.7  I have compiled both
7.0.3 and 7.1.2, and neither gave me any obvious compilation errors,
but I did note these interesting (relevant?) warnings:
  UX tsort: INFORM: cycle in data
          fe-connect.o
          fe-auth.o
  UX tsort: INFORM: cycle in data
          fe-exec.o
          fe-connect.o

My Solaris client uses the three files: libpq-fe.h, postgres_ext.h,
and libpq.a (nothing else).

The problem is that my Solaris client does not authenticate against
my server (7.0.3 built on FreeBSD).  I added the following line to
  src/backend/libpq/crypt.c, function crypt_verify() for logging:
  fprintf(stderr, "crypt_verify: user='%s' pass='%s', crypt='%s'\n",
    user, pgpass, crypt_pwd);

When my FreeBSD client connects, this logging prints success:
  crypt_verify: user='dtvuser'
     pass='$1$hI$eaByHtOxTYKOygT1.JMsU.',
    crypt='$1$hI$eaByHtOxTYKOygT1.JMsU.'
  crypt_verify: user='dtvuser' 
     pass='$1$ZH$YGGYInw6oH0P29Ze6hlo.1',
    crypt='$1$ZH$YGGYInw6oH0P29Ze6hlo.1'

When my Solaris client tries to connect, the hash is totally wrong:
  crypt_verify: user='dtvuser'
     pass='lBeX8.2tWJup.',
    crypt='$1$lB$ajOq8TJJdUAAyDZcSGDfM.'
  crypt_verify: user='dtvuser'
     pass='3HW/UXZhFVXhs',
    crypt='$1$3H$QzIURSP9F/v/nI5jFwwXn.'

My FreeBSD client is apparently using a salted MD5 hash, where my
Solaris client seems to be just throwing something else.

Is there a configuration item I missed while compiling?  Or is there
a run-time option involved?

Thanks for any insight into this!

-Richard

-------------------------------------------
   Richard Hodges   | Matriplex, inc.
   Product Manager  | 769 Basque Way
  rh@matriplex.com  | Carson City, NV 89706
    775-886-6477    | www.matriplex.com 




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* Re: Differences in crypt hash?
  2001-08-04 01:41 Differences in crypt hash? Richard Hodges <rh@matriplex.com>
@ 2001-08-04 17:05 ` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
  2001-08-04 18:28   ` Re: Differences in crypt hash? Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread

From: Tom Lane @ 2001-08-04 17:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Richard Hodges <rh@matriplex.com>; +Cc: pgsql-docs

Richard Hodges <rh@matriplex.com> writes:
> The problem is that my Solaris client does not authenticate against
> my server (7.0.3 built on FreeBSD).

Indeed, one of the nasty things about the 'crypt' authentication method
is that it assumes the crypt() library call acts the same on both client
and server machine.  As you've just discovered, that ain't always so.

There have been plans for some time to supersede our present password
auth methods with something more secure and portable (probably MD5
double hashing at both ends).  I think Vince V. is working on that,
but I've not heard anything about it lately.  You can read all about it
in the pghackers mail archives if you care.

In the meantime, you'll just have to use a different auth method.
Plain "password" would work.  (If you're concerned about someone
sniffing your TCP connection, consider using SSL.)

			regards, tom lane



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* Re: Differences in crypt hash?
  2001-08-04 01:41 Differences in crypt hash? Richard Hodges <rh@matriplex.com>
  2001-08-04 17:05 ` Re: Differences in crypt hash? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
@ 2001-08-04 18:28   ` Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
  2001-08-04 19:16     ` Re: Differences in crypt hash? Richard Hodges <rh@matriplex.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread

From: Bruce Momjian @ 2001-08-04 18:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>; +Cc: Richard Hodges <rh@matriplex.com>; pgsql-docs

> Richard Hodges <rh@matriplex.com> writes:
> > The problem is that my Solaris client does not authenticate against
> > my server (7.0.3 built on FreeBSD).
> 
> Indeed, one of the nasty things about the 'crypt' authentication method
> is that it assumes the crypt() library call acts the same on both client
> and server machine.  As you've just discovered, that ain't always so.
> 
> There have been plans for some time to supersede our present password
> auth methods with something more secure and portable (probably MD5
> double hashing at both ends).  I think Vince V. is working on that,
> but I've not heard anything about it lately.  You can read all about it
> in the pghackers mail archives if you care.

I am trying to get it done for 7.2.  I have Vince's md5 code.  I just
need to plug it into the authentication code.

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* Re: Differences in crypt hash?
  2001-08-04 01:41 Differences in crypt hash? Richard Hodges <rh@matriplex.com>
  2001-08-04 17:05 ` Re: Differences in crypt hash? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
  2001-08-04 18:28   ` Re: Differences in crypt hash? Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
@ 2001-08-04 19:16     ` Richard Hodges <rh@matriplex.com>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread

From: Richard Hodges @ 2001-08-04 19:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>; +Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>; pgsql-docs

On Sat, 4 Aug 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> > Richard Hodges <rh@matriplex.com> writes:
> > > The problem is that my Solaris client does not authenticate against
> > > my server (7.0.3 built on FreeBSD).
> > 
> > Indeed, one of the nasty things about the 'crypt' authentication method
> > is that it assumes the crypt() library call acts the same on both client
> > and server machine.  As you've just discovered, that ain't always so.
> > 
> > There have been plans for some time to supersede our present password
> > auth methods with something more secure and portable (probably MD5
> > double hashing at both ends).  I think Vince V. is working on that,
> > but I've not heard anything about it lately.  You can read all about it
> > in the pghackers mail archives if you care.
> 
> I am trying to get it done for 7.2.  I have Vince's md5 code.  I just
> need to plug it into the authentication code.

Thanks for the info, Tom and Bruce.  I'll just have to use cleartext
passwords in the meantime :-(  Yuck.

All the best,

-Richard

-------------------------------------------
   Richard Hodges   | Matriplex, inc.
   Product Manager  | 769 Basque Way
  rh@matriplex.com  | Carson City, NV 89706
    775-886-6477    | www.matriplex.com 




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