X-Original-To: pgsql-advocacy-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [64.117.224.193]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C87230F989 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 15:31:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([64.117.224.193]) by localhost (svr1.postgresql.org [64.117.224.193]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28873-10 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 12:31:39 -0300 (ADT) Received: from celery.tssi.com (celery.tssi.com [198.147.197.6]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E40930F95E for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 12:31:38 -0300 (ADT) Received: (qmail 5909 invoked by uid 1000); 24 Jun 2003 15:31:34 -0000 Message-ID: <20030624153134.5907.qmail@celery.tssi.com> From: nolan@celery.tssi.com Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Documentation quality WAS: interesting To: acm@tweakers.net (Arjen van der Meijden) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:31:33 -0500 (CDT) Cc: JanWieck@Yahoo.com ('Jan Wieck'), pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org ('Advocacy PostgreSQL'), pgsql-general@postgresql.org ('PostgreSQL-general') In-Reply-To: <001a01c33a58$08276b40$3ac15e91@acm> from "Arjen van der Meijden" at Jun 24, 2003 03:53:40 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200306/249 X-Sequence-Number: 1461 > There also ssh clients which support X11 forwarding on a windows machine > and since there are X11 servers for windows... > You don't necessarily need a unix workstation. Apart from that, a > (tight)vnc server might be less bandwidth consuming. I've always figured X11 was proof that you can never have a fast enough CPU or enough memory. :-) I've tried X11 across a DSL line, it gives a whole new meaning to the word slow. I wound up creating a SSH tunnel to a browser inside the client's firewall, a solution neither of us are entirely happy with, as it may have some security concerns. We're probably setting up a VPN connection, but that's hung up in accounting. My point is that solutions which require other technology just to install or use, whether that be a simple browser or X11, can be self-defeating. If we're trying to sell ourselves to the PHP and/or MySQL communities, needing or even recommending X11 isn't the direction we should be going. -- Mike Nolan