X-Original-To: pgsql-docs-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [64.117.224.130]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B8B3D1C91F for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 21:21:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([64.117.224.193]) by localhost (neptune.hub.org [64.117.224.130]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 52301-03 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:20:08 -0300 (ADT) Received: from brasileiro.net (slxwy.dorms.usu.edu [129.123.227.103]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB3FD1C932 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:21:16 -0300 (ADT) Received: from roberto by brasileiro.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19j3oT-00016z-00; Sat, 02 Aug 2003 15:21:17 -0600 Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 15:21:17 -0600 From: Roberto Mello To: "Chad N. Tindel" Cc: pgsql-docs@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Mysql -> Postgresql pitfalls Message-ID: <20030802212117.GA1948@cc.usu.edu> References: <20030801163555.GA32496@calma.pair.com> <20030801205110.GA63709@calma.pair.com> <20030802063346.GA24640@cc.usu.edu> <20030802171049.GB12300@calma.pair.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030802171049.GB12300@calma.pair.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-message-flag: Please consider using an e-mail program other than Outlook. It's insecure. X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postgresql.org X-Archive-Number: 200308/9 X-Sequence-Number: 1869 On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 01:10:49PM -0400, Chad N. Tindel wrote: > > Hmmm? > > > > The point is something called security. > > There is no such thing as a "proper amount of security that is correct for > all operating environments". Whoever said there was? I didn't. > > This has no logic. Security is fundamental. No security is fundamentally > > incorrect. > > Well, you could make a box very secure by unplugging all the LAN cables from > it and putting it in a giant safe deposit box. However, I would say that such > a machine would be fundamentally incorrect for most operating environments. Nice strawmen. Too bad it's a logical fallacy. > Many people run their machines with "+ +" in root's .rhosts file because it > eases the task of doing administration. They work in a company where the box is > behind a firewall on some public network and they need there computers to How about people inside the company? Are they all nice people who live in happy valley? > get real work done.... they don't want things like "security" to get in the > way because nobody is trying to hack those machines. I digress. -Roberto -- +----| Roberto Mello - http://www.brasileiro.net/ |------+ + Computer Science Graduate Student, Utah State University + + USU Free Software & GNU/Linux Club - http://fslc.usu.edu/ + Backup not found: (Q)uem mandou usar o Stacker?