X-Original-To: pgsql-docs-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [64.117.224.130]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE1D2D1B53A for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 00:37:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([64.117.224.193]) by localhost (neptune.hub.org [64.117.224.130]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 57497-01 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2003 21:37:03 -0300 (ADT) Received: from candle.pha.pa.us (momjian.navpoint.com [207.106.42.251]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1506D1B524 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2003 21:36:58 -0300 (ADT) Received: (from pgman@localhost) by candle.pha.pa.us (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h7H0avV17926; Sat, 16 Aug 2003 20:36:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Momjian Message-Id: <200308170036.h7H0avV17926@candle.pha.pa.us> Subject: Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL vs. MySQL In-Reply-To: <20030704182853.GK4707@libertyrms.info> To: Andrew Sullivan Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 20:36:57 -0400 (EDT) Cc: PostgreSQL-documentation X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL99 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postgresql.org X-Archive-Number: 200308/51 X-Sequence-Number: 1911 Do we need to add a mention of the need for tuning to the install docs? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Sullivan wrote: > On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 08:07:18PM +0200, Arjen van der Meijden wrote: > > > Andrew Sullivan wrote: > > > results under production conditions, and not bother to read > > > even the basic "quickstart"-type stuff that is kicking > > > around. > > Then please point out where it sais, in the documentation, that the > > value for the shared_memory of 64 is too low and that 4000 is a nice > > value to start with? > > I think I did indeed speak too soon, as the criticism is a fair one: > nowhere in the installation instructions or the "getting started" > docs does it say that you really ought to do some tuning once you > have the system installed. Can I suggest for the time being that > something along these lines should go in 14.6.3, "Tuning the > installation": > > ---snip--- > By default, PostgreSQL is configured to run on minimal hardware. As > a result, some tuning of your installation will be necessary before > using it for anything other than extremely small databases. At the > very least, it will probably be necessary to increase your shared > buffers setting. See Chapter 16 for details on what tuning options > are available to you. > ---snip--- > > > I'm sorry to put this in a such a confronting manner, but you simply > > can't expect people to search for information that they don't know the > > existence of. > > No need to apologise; I think you're right. > > A > > -- > ---- > Andrew Sullivan 204-4141 Yonge Street > Liberty RMS Toronto, Ontario Canada > M2P 2A8 > +1 416 646 3304 x110 > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? > > http://archives.postgresql.org > -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073