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To: Tatsuo Ishii <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: 7.4 compatibility question
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 00:40:20 -0400 (EDT)
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Tatsuo Ishii wrote:
> > I've been pushing this agenda for a few releases now, but some people have
> > been, er, boycotting it. I think, too, that release notes *must* be
> > written incrementally at the same time that the feature change is made.
> > This is the only way we can get accurate and complete release notes, and
> > the descriptions could even include some context, some motivations, etc.
> > We have release cycles of 10 months, and there is no way we can make
> > sensible release notes by gathering individual commit messages over that
> > period of time. Heck, ECPG has a full Informix compatibility mode and
> > there is no mention of that anywhere, because there was no commit "Add
> > Informix mode."
> >
> > I suggest we just do it like the documentation: If you don't document it,
> > it doesn't exist. If you don't write a line for the release notes, it
> > doesn't exist either.
>
> I tend to agree it. For every release I and my colleague have been
> working on creating detailed release notes (of course in Japanese),
> otherwise we cannot tell people what are changed, added or fixed since
> there is little info in the official release note. This is painful
> since we have to dig into the mail archives and cvs commit messages to
> look for what each item of the official release note actually
> means. These work take at least 2 to 3 weeks with several people
> involved. The hardest part is what are fixed. The only useful
> information seems to be the cvs commit messages, however typical
> messages are something like "see recent discussions in the mail
> archive for more details". This is not very helpful at least for
> me. Once I proposed that we add a sequence number to each mail and the
> commit messages point to the number. This way we could easily trace
> what are the bug report and what are the actual intention for the
> fix. For some reason noboy was interested in. Maybe this is due to
> "coulture gap"... (In Japan giving a sequence number to each mail in
> mailing lists is quite common).
OK, if Tatsuo and SRA are having problems, I have to address it. I can
supply a more detailed list to Tatsuo/SRA, or I can beef up the release
notes to contain more information. Seems some in the community would
like to have this detail so I might as well do it and have it in the
official docs. One idea would be to add a section at the bottom of the
release notes that goes into detail on changes listed in the release
notes above --- that way, people can still skim the 300-line release
notes, and if they want detailed information about the optimizer changes
or subtle pg_dump fixes, that will be at the bottom.
How does that sound? I can start on this for 7.4 next week. It
basically means going through the CVS logs again and pulling out
additional details.
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