X-Original-To: pgsql-general-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9988BD1B21B for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 09:32:21 -0300 (ADT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 91340-09 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:32:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jimsun.linxnet.com (jimsun.linxnet.com [64.32.196.134]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D533D1B211 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 09:32:11 -0300 (ADT) Received: by jimsun.linxnet.com (Postfix, from userid 332) id 6E477430E; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 08:32:15 -0400 (EDT) To: pgsql-general@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Do we need more emphasis on backup? X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Reply-To: pgsql-general@postgresql.org In-Reply-To: <200407051909.i65J9Hu04344@candle.pha.pa.us> Message-Id: <20040706123215.6E477430E@jimsun.linxnet.com> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 08:32:15 -0400 (EDT) From: jseymour@linxnet.com (Jim Seymour) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests= X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200407/187 X-Sequence-Number: 62786 Bruce Momjian wrote: > > pgman wrote: > > Jim Seymour wrote: [snip] > > > > > > My position is that your data is only as reliable as your hardware, > > > period. [snip] > > > > There is a basic misconception that all PC hardware is created equal --- > > that hard drives, mother boards, and RAM are all the same because they > > are all PC-compatible. Compatible != Similar Quality. [snip] > > Should I add an FAQ discussing hardware selection and the importance of > reliable hardware? Scary to think that people who don't know enough about running a proper server, and thus have to be *told* this, are admin'ing databases. Start with: Gotta have ECC, or at least parity-checking, RAM. Mention the (some kinds of?) IDE drives issue. Mention that hardware RAID systems must have battery-backed write cache. (I actually had a RAID vendor, whose products no longer had batter-backed write cache, tell me "Just use a UPS.") Jim