X-Original-To: pgsql-general-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E81A8D1B181 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 13:04:28 -0300 (ADT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25807-04 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 16:04:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from candle.pha.pa.us (candle.pha.pa.us [207.106.42.251]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8821CD1B1CE for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 13:04:18 -0300 (ADT) Received: (from pgman@localhost) by candle.pha.pa.us (8.11.6/8.11.6) id i66G45G09136; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:04:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Momjian Message-Id: <200407061604.i66G45G09136@candle.pha.pa.us> Subject: Re: Do we need more emphasis on backup? In-Reply-To: <20040706140058.GB30186@dcc.uchile.cl> To: Alvaro Herrera Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:04:05 -0400 (EDT) Cc: pgsql-general@postgresql.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL108 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests= X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200407/196 X-Sequence-Number: 62795 Alvaro Herrera wrote: > On Tue, Jul 06, 2004 at 08:32:15AM -0400, Jim Seymour wrote: > > > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > Should I add an FAQ discussing hardware selection and the importance of > > > reliable hardware? > > > > Scary to think that people who don't know enough about running a proper > > server, and thus have to be *told* this, are admin'ing databases. > > Maybe it's scary for people in the US or the western/wealthier Europe. > But people also live in other parts of the world (I could even mention > that real people do live in places like Iraq and they even have > computers there). > > For us rest-of-the-worlders, it's not always possible to get top of the > line hardware. I am somewhat lucky because I live in a country where > people can afford an UPS. Some people are not. > > Of course you can talk about the value of the data and how much good > hardware can help you not lose that data -- but truth is, people need to > make an economical analysis on the worthiness of such protection, and > while some of them will be able to afford redundant battery backed SCSI > RAID controllers, some others won't be able to buy an UPS. > > So I think it's a good idea to mention that better hardware can be > helpful. But don't make that sound like if you don't have it, it's the > end of the world or the admin is an uneducated moron. Good point. I will write up some text for the FAQ and post it. I will emphasize that there is great variation in the quality of PC-compatible hardware, and mention a few specific examples. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073