X-Original-To: pgsql-docs-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C18D1B751; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 22:43:46 -0300 (ADT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 98211-07; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 01:43:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from candle.pha.pa.us (candle.pha.pa.us [207.106.42.251]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7194DD1B756; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 22:43:35 -0300 (ADT) Received: (from pgman@localhost) by candle.pha.pa.us (8.11.6/8.11.6) id i6Q1heT05327; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 21:43:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Momjian Message-Id: <200407260143.i6Q1heT05327@candle.pha.pa.us> Subject: Re: [HACKERS] 7.5 release notes In-Reply-To: <1090805507.3057.2129.camel@localhost.localdomain> To: Simon Riggs Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 21:43:40 -0400 (EDT) Cc: PostgreSQL-development , PostgreSQL-documentation X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL108 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests= X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200407/51 X-Sequence-Number: 2459 Simon Riggs wrote: > > For me, clarity and > > candor gain a lot more credibility than trying to cover over missing > > functionality in the past. I am not saying we have to be so honest that > > we bash PostgreSQL, but in cases where we adjust wording to try to > > prevent ourselves from looking bad, it is best to be honest and clear > > about our limitations. I think in the long run it gains us lots of > > credibility (and ultimately volunteers). > > > > I see this as merely a half-full/half-empty viewpoint issue. > > Honesty and clarity are wonderful things and I subscribe to them. Using > them only to describe your own viewpoint is not a reasonable point to > make in a hopefully rational discussion about writing style... > > I'll go back to my docs now, but I guess we may relive this again when > you see some of the honest, clear and positive changes I am suggesting. > :) I wasn't suggesting yours were dishonest. I was saying that I was aiming for the clearest style whether is makes PostgreSQL look good or not. I figured saying "in the past you had to do X" was clearer than saying "you don't have to do X anymore". I am, of course, am open to the community's feedback on this. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073