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* ANSI SQL-2003 conformance
@ 2004-11-14 23:20  Simon Riggs <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread

From: Simon Riggs @ 2004-11-14 23:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-docs


IIRC there was some discussion earlier about including a (possibly
detailed) assessment of ANSI SQL-2003 conformance in the docs for 8.0.

My understanding was that there were people actually working on that.

Where are we with that? Anybody got news? 

-- 
Best Regards, Simon Riggs




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* Re: ANSI SQL-2003 conformance
@ 2004-11-15 03:29  elein <[email protected]>
  parent: Simon Riggs <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread

From: elein @ 2004-11-15 03:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Simon Riggs <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-docs

Troels and I are working on this.  We have a bit started.
I have been a bit to swamped to add anything for the last
two or three weeks.  I suspect Troels is in the same position.

We have the documents and a sketchy work plan.  There is a 
lot of stuff here, obviously.  Wanna help?

--elein
[email protected]

On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 11:20:37PM +0000, Simon Riggs wrote:
> 
> IIRC there was some discussion earlier about including a (possibly
> detailed) assessment of ANSI SQL-2003 conformance in the docs for 8.0.
> 
> My understanding was that there were people actually working on that.
> 
> Where are we with that? Anybody got news? 
> 
> -- 
> Best Regards, Simon Riggs
> 
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* Re: ANSI SQL-2003 conformance
@ 2004-11-15 16:12  Simon Riggs <[email protected]>
  parent: elein <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread

From: Simon Riggs @ 2004-11-15 16:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: elein <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-docs

On Mon, 2004-11-15 at 03:29, elein wrote:
> Troels and I are working on this.  We have a bit started.
> I have been a bit to swamped to add anything for the last
> two or three weeks.  I suspect Troels is in the same position.
> 
> We have the documents and a sketchy work plan.  There is a 
> lot of stuff here, obviously.  Wanna help?

Given how close we are to 8.0, we should just do a summary for the
release notes at least. I'll help with that... but not with the Full
Monty. :)

> On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 11:20:37PM +0000, Simon Riggs wrote:
> > 
> > IIRC there was some discussion earlier about including a (possibly
> > detailed) assessment of ANSI SQL-2003 conformance in the docs for 8.0.

-- 
Best Regards, Simon Riggs




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* Re: ANSI SQL-2003 conformance
@ 2004-11-15 16:35  Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
  parent: elein <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread

From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2004-11-15 16:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: elein <[email protected]>; Simon Riggs <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-docs

elein wrote:
> Troels and I are working on this.  We have a bit started.
> I have been a bit to swamped to add anything for the last
> two or three weeks.  I suspect Troels is in the same position.

I think you should just submit incremental patches for the relevant 
files.  That way others can continue the work.  No one expects a full 
conformance analysis on the spot.  But if you wait much longer, the 
release will be out and for the next one we'll have 97 new features to 
work in.

-- 
Peter Eisentraut
http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/




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* Re: ANSI SQL-2003 conformance
@ 2004-11-15 17:37  elein <[email protected]>
  parent: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread

From: elein @ 2004-11-15 17:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; +Cc: elein <[email protected]>; Simon Riggs <[email protected]>; pgsql-docs

I agree with Peter.  Simon you can contact me to see the
work in progress (such as it is) and feel free to 
submit immediate doc patches.

--elein
[email protected]

On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 05:35:52PM +0100, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> elein wrote:
> > Troels and I are working on this.  We have a bit started.
> > I have been a bit to swamped to add anything for the last
> > two or three weeks.  I suspect Troels is in the same position.
> 
> I think you should just submit incremental patches for the relevant 
> files.  That way others can continue the work.  No one expects a full 
> conformance analysis on the spot.  But if you wait much longer, the 
> release will be out and for the next one we'll have 97 new features to 
> work in.
> 
> -- 
> Peter Eisentraut
> http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/
> 



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* Re: ANSI SQL-2003 conformance
@ 2004-11-15 20:49  Troels Arvin <[email protected]>
  parent: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread

From: Troels Arvin @ 2004-11-15 20:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-docs

On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:35:52 +0100, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

> I think you should just submit incremental patches for the relevant 
> files.

My best shot is still
http://troels.arvin.dk/db/pgsql/conformance/pgsql-sql-conformance.patch

There are a number of features which are currently set to conformance=no
but which might actually be implemented. That list hasn't changed from
this post: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-docs/2004-10/msg00050.php

> But if you wait much longer
[...]

I agree that it's getting late. I'm behind on every project that I'm
involved in, and will probably not time to work more on this :-(

Simon/Elein: Do you plan to put more work into this?

If noone has the time to look over those
probably-not-conforming-but-just-maybe features, I suggest that we just go
along with the above patch.

-- 
Greetings from Troels Arvin, Copenhagen, Denmark





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* Re: ANSI SQL-2003 conformance
@ 2004-11-16 02:05  Simon Riggs <[email protected]>
  parent: Troels Arvin <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread

From: Simon Riggs @ 2004-11-16 02:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Troels Arvin <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-docs

On Mon, 2004-11-15 at 20:49, Troels Arvin wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:35:52 +0100, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> 
> > I think you should just submit incremental patches for the relevant 
> > files.
> 
> My best shot is still
> http://troels.arvin.dk/db/pgsql/conformance/pgsql-sql-conformance.patch
> 
> There are a number of features which are currently set to conformance=no
> but which might actually be implemented. That list hasn't changed from
> this post: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-docs/2004-10/msg00050.php
> 
> > But if you wait much longer
> [...]
> 
> I agree that it's getting late. I'm behind on every project that I'm
> involved in, and will probably not time to work more on this :-(
> 
> Simon/Elein: Do you plan to put more work into this?
> 
> If noone has the time to look over those
> probably-not-conforming-but-just-maybe features, I suggest that we just go
> along with the above patch.

I've re-written the starting paragraphs, will post soon.

That doesnt conflict with your patch - which look like good detail.

-- 
Best Regards, Simon Riggs




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* Re: ANSI SQL-2003 conformance
@ 2004-11-21 22:41  Troels Arvin <[email protected]>
  parent: Simon Riggs <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread

From: Troels Arvin @ 2004-11-21 22:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-docs

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 02:05:36 +0000, Simon Riggs wrote:

>> My best shot is still
>> http://troels.arvin.dk/db/pgsql/conformance/pgsql-sql-conformance.patch

> I've re-written the starting paragraphs, will post soon.

Did you post them, in that case: where?

-- 
Greetings from Troels Arvin, Copenhagen, Denmark






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