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* Added documentation about caching, reliability @ 2005-09-28 18:26 Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 4 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Bruce Momjian @ 2005-09-28 18:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: PostgreSQL-development <[email protected]>; pgsql-docs I have added a section to the top of the WAL docs explaining caching and reliability issues: http://candle.pha.pa.us/main/writings/pgsql/sgml/reliability.html I also renamed the chapter "Reilability" rather than "WAL." -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us [email protected] | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [HACKERS] Added documentation about caching, reliability @ 2005-09-28 18:37 Jonah H. Harris <[email protected]> parent: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> 3 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Jonah H. Harris @ 2005-09-28 18:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; +Cc: PostgreSQL-development <[email protected]>; pgsql-docs Hey Bruce, One grammar issue... otherwise great work. they can be moved to another computer with similar hardware and all committed transaction will remain intact. should be they can be moved to another computer with similar hardware and all committed transactions will remain intact. On 9/28/05, Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have added a section to the top of the WAL docs explaining caching and > reliability issues: > > http://candle.pha.pa.us/main/writings/pgsql/sgml/reliability.html > > I also renamed the chapter "Reilability" rather than "WAL." > > -- > Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us > [email protected] | (610) 359-1001 > + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road > + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate > subscribe-nomail command to [email protected] so that your > message can get through to the mailing list cleanly > -- Respectfully, Jonah H. Harris, Database Internals Architect EnterpriseDB Corporation http://www.enterprisedb.com/ ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [HACKERS] Added documentation about caching, reliability @ 2005-09-28 18:40 Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> parent: Jonah H. Harris <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Bruce Momjian @ 2005-09-28 18:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jonah H. Harris <[email protected]>; +Cc: PostgreSQL-development <[email protected]>; pgsql-docs Thanks, fixed. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonah H. Harris wrote: > Hey Bruce, > > One grammar issue... otherwise great work. > > they can be moved to another computer with similar hardware and all > committed transaction will remain intact. > > should be > > they can be moved to another computer with similar hardware and all > committed transactions will remain intact. > > On 9/28/05, Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I have added a section to the top of the WAL docs explaining caching and > > reliability issues: > > > > http://candle.pha.pa.us/main/writings/pgsql/sgml/reliability.html > > > > I also renamed the chapter "Reilability" rather than "WAL." > > > > -- > > Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us > > [email protected] | (610) 359-1001 > > + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road > > + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 > > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > > TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate > > subscribe-nomail command to [email protected] so that your > > message can get through to the mailing list cleanly > > > > > > -- > Respectfully, > > Jonah H. Harris, Database Internals Architect > EnterpriseDB Corporation > http://www.enterprisedb.com/ -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us [email protected] | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: Added documentation about caching, reliability @ 2005-09-28 19:49 Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]> parent: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> 3 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Alvaro Herrera @ 2005-09-28 19:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; +Cc: PostgreSQL-development <[email protected]>; pgsql-docs On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 02:26:24PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I have added a section to the top of the WAL docs explaining caching and > reliability issues: > > http://candle.pha.pa.us/main/writings/pgsql/sgml/reliability.html > > I also renamed the chapter "Reilability" rather than "WAL." While you are re-titling the docs, maybe the sections on that chapter could be titled "Benefits of Write-Ahead Log" instead of "Benefits of WAL", etc. -- Alvaro Herrera http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/DXLWNGRJD34 "La realidad se compone de muchos sueños, todos ellos diferentes, pero en cierto aspecto, parecidos..." (Yo, hablando de sueños eróticos) ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: Added documentation about caching, reliability @ 2005-09-29 02:08 Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> parent: Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Bruce Momjian @ 2005-09-29 02:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]>; +Cc: PostgreSQL-development <[email protected]>; pgsql-docs Alvaro Herrera wrote: > On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 02:26:24PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I have added a section to the top of the WAL docs explaining caching and > > reliability issues: > > > > http://candle.pha.pa.us/main/writings/pgsql/sgml/reliability.html > > > > I also renamed the chapter "Reilability" rather than "WAL." > > While you are re-titling the docs, maybe the sections on that chapter > could be titled "Benefits of Write-Ahead Log" instead of "Benefits of > WAL", etc. The chapter sections are: Table of Contents 26.1. Write-Ahead Logging (WAL) 26.2. Benefits of WAL 26.3. WAL Configuration 26.4. WAL Internals Are you suggesting we spell out Write-Ahead Logging for all section titles? -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us [email protected] | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [HACKERS] Added documentation about caching, reliability @ 2005-09-29 02:16 Jonah H. Harris <[email protected]> parent: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> 1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Jonah H. Harris @ 2005-09-29 02:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; +Cc: Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL-development <[email protected]>; pgsql-docs IMHO, spelling out each one is redundant... the first one "Write-Ahead Logging (WAL)" seems to define WAL for use later in the text. On 9/28/05, Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> wrote: > > Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 02:26:24PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > I have added a section to the top of the WAL docs explaining caching > and > > > reliability issues: > > > > > > http://candle.pha.pa.us/main/writings/pgsql/sgml/reliability.html > > > > > > I also renamed the chapter "Reilability" rather than "WAL." > > > > While you are re-titling the docs, maybe the sections on that chapter > > could be titled "Benefits of Write-Ahead Log" instead of "Benefits of > > WAL", etc. > > The chapter sections are: > > Table of Contents > 26.1. Write-Ahead Logging (WAL) > 26.2. Benefits of WAL > 26.3. WAL Configuration > 26.4. WAL Internals > > Are you suggesting we spell out Write-Ahead Logging for all section > titles? > > -- > Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us > [email protected] | (610) 359-1001 > + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road > + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate > subscribe-nomail command to [email protected] so that your > message can get through to the mailing list cleanly > -- Respectfully, Jonah H. Harris, Database Internals Architect EnterpriseDB Corporation http://www.enterprisedb.com/ ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: Added documentation about caching, reliability @ 2005-09-29 02:23 Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]> parent: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> 1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Alvaro Herrera @ 2005-09-29 02:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; +Cc: PostgreSQL-development <[email protected]>; pgsql-docs On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 10:08:02PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > The chapter sections are: > > Table of Contents > 26.1. Write-Ahead Logging (WAL) > 26.2. Benefits of WAL > 26.3. WAL Configuration > 26.4. WAL Internals > > Are you suggesting we spell out Write-Ahead Logging for all section > titles? Is it considered good style to use acronyms in titles? I wouldn't do it. Maybe it could be left as 26.1. Write-Ahead Logging 26.2. Benefits of Write-Ahead Logging 26.3. WAL Configuration 26.4. WAL Internals because the former two talk about WAL in a general manner, while the latter two are about our implementation. I also wouldn't expand the acronym in a title. -- Alvaro Herrera Valdivia, Chile ICBM: S 39º 49' 17.7", W 73º 14' 26.8" Thou shalt study thy libraries and strive not to reinvent them without cause, that thy code may be short and readable and thy days pleasant and productive. (7th Commandment for C Programmers) ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: Added documentation about caching, reliability @ 2005-09-29 02:30 Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> parent: Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Bruce Momjian @ 2005-09-29 02:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]>; +Cc: PostgreSQL-development <[email protected]>; pgsql-docs Alvaro Herrera wrote: > On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 10:08:02PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > The chapter sections are: > > > > Table of Contents > > 26.1. Write-Ahead Logging (WAL) > > 26.2. Benefits of WAL > > 26.3. WAL Configuration > > 26.4. WAL Internals > > > > Are you suggesting we spell out Write-Ahead Logging for all section > > titles? > > Is it considered good style to use acronyms in titles? I wouldn't do it. > > Maybe it could be left as > > 26.1. Write-Ahead Logging > 26.2. Benefits of Write-Ahead Logging I modified 26.2 as you suggested. > 26.3. WAL Configuration > 26.4. WAL Internals > > because the former two talk about WAL in a general manner, while the > latter two are about our implementation. I also wouldn't expand the > acronym in a title. I think we do need to show the acronym in the title if use that acronym in later titles. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us [email protected] | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: Added documentation about caching, reliability @ 2005-09-29 06:38 Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> parent: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> 3 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2005-09-29 06:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pgsql-docs; +Cc: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL-development <[email protected]> Am Mittwoch, 28. September 2005 20:26 schrieb Bruce Momjian: > I also renamed the chapter "Reilability" rather than "WAL." Considering that the chapter is, in fact, all about WAL, I don't think this is a good move. Reliability is a concern that is not only addressed by the WAL system. Please change it back. -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/ ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: Added documentation about caching, reliability @ 2005-09-29 14:40 Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> parent: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Bruce Momjian @ 2005-09-29 14:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-docs; PostgreSQL-development <[email protected]> Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 28. September 2005 20:26 schrieb Bruce Momjian: > > I also renamed the chapter "Reilability" rather than "WAL." > > Considering that the chapter is, in fact, all about WAL, I don't think this is > a good move. Reliability is a concern that is not only addressed by the WAL > system. Please change it back. Well, now the chapter is about WAL and reliability, so I thought reliability hit both topics. Also, maybe we should consider moving this FAQ item into the docs: <H3><A name="3.7">3.7</A>) What computer hardware should I use?</H3> <P>Because PC hardware is mostly compatible, people tend to believe that all PC hardware is of equal quality. It is not. ECC RAM, SCSI, and quality motherboards are more reliable and have better performance than less expensive hardware. PostgreSQL will run on almost any hardware, but if reliability and performance are important it is wise to research your hardware options thoroughly. Our email lists can be used to discuss hardware options and tradeoffs.</P> Anyway, I thought the previous chapter title, WAL, was weird because it was hard to know why an administrator would care about WAL --- there was no lead-in to the term. This way, it is all under reliability, and can add to it. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us [email protected] | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: Added documentation about caching, reliability @ 2005-09-29 15:13 Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> parent: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2005-09-29 15:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-docs; PostgreSQL-development <[email protected]> Bruce Momjian wrote: > Well, now the chapter is about WAL and reliability, so I thought > reliability hit both topics. Also, maybe we should consider moving > this FAQ item into the docs: > > <H3><A name="3.7">3.7</A>) What computer hardware should I > use?</H3> Hardware choice and configuration are important topics, but neither of these are strongly tied to either WAL or Reliability. Reliability is the property (not a "feature") of a system to do what you meant for it to do. Certainly WAL contributes to that by increasing tolerance against hardware failures, but it still seems to be a rather far-fetched connection to pair these two. I could see hardware issues being discussed in chapter 16, since we already have operating system and kernel configuration there, and it's the chapter a user will read when setting up a server system. I was never all that happy with the WAL chapter, since, as you say, it doesn't seem to be a first-class user-level feature. I'd be happy to integrate it into another chapter, but I'm not sure where. -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/ ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: Added documentation about caching, reliability @ 2005-09-29 15:17 Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> parent: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Bruce Momjian @ 2005-09-29 15:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-docs; PostgreSQL-development <[email protected]> Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Well, now the chapter is about WAL and reliability, so I thought > > reliability hit both topics. Also, maybe we should consider moving > > this FAQ item into the docs: > > > > <H3><A name="3.7">3.7</A>) What computer hardware should I > > use?</H3> > > Hardware choice and configuration are important topics, but neither of > these are strongly tied to either WAL or Reliability. Reliability is > the property (not a "feature") of a system to do what you meant for it > to do. Certainly WAL contributes to that by increasing tolerance > against hardware failures, but it still seems to be a rather > far-fetched connection to pair these two. > > I could see hardware issues being discussed in chapter 16, since we > already have operating system and kernel configuration there, and it's > the chapter a user will read when setting up a server system. > > I was never all that happy with the WAL chapter, since, as you say, it > doesn't seem to be a first-class user-level feature. I'd be happy to > integrate it into another chapter, but I'm not sure where. Sure, I am looking for suggestions. My relabeling at least fixes that, but feel free to move things around and relabel them. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us [email protected] | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: Added documentation about caching, reliability @ 2005-10-03 17:44 Merlin Moncure <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Merlin Moncure @ 2005-10-03 17:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; +Cc: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; pgsql-docs Bruce wrote: > > I was never all that happy with the WAL chapter, since, as you say, it > > doesn't seem to be a first-class user-level feature. I'd be happy to > > integrate it into another chapter, but I'm not sure where. > > Sure, I am looking for suggestions. My relabeling at least fixes that, > but feel free to move things around and relabel them. FWIW, I agree with Peter. We are supposed to be talking about Server Administration, not architectural properties of the database (reliability, performance, etc.). The proposed move takes things more off-topic. In fact, IMO chapter 26 is already too fat and could provide links to the 'benefits' and 'implementation details' portions (maybe move to VII Internals?). Merlin ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: Added documentation about caching, reliability @ 2005-10-03 18:48 Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> parent: Merlin Moncure <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Bruce Momjian @ 2005-10-03 18:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Merlin Moncure <[email protected]>; +Cc: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; pgsql-docs Merlin Moncure wrote: > Bruce wrote: > > > I was never all that happy with the WAL chapter, since, as you say, > it > > > doesn't seem to be a first-class user-level feature. I'd be happy > to > > > integrate it into another chapter, but I'm not sure where. > > > > Sure, I am looking for suggestions. My relabeling at least fixes > that, > > but feel free to move things around and relabel them. > > FWIW, I agree with Peter. We are supposed to be talking about Server > Administration, not architectural properties of the database > (reliability, performance, etc.). The proposed move takes things more > off-topic. In fact, IMO chapter 26 is already too fat and could provide > links to the 'benefits' and 'implementation details' portions (maybe > move to VII Internals?). I have no problem moving the WAL sections out of administration to somewhere else, and linking to it from the Reliability section. In fact, my new added section is probably the only part of that chapter that _does_ belong in the administration guide. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us [email protected] | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: Added documentation about caching, reliability @ 2005-10-09 08:54 Simon Riggs <[email protected]> parent: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> 3 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Simon Riggs @ 2005-10-09 08:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; +Cc: PostgreSQL-development <[email protected]>; pgsql-docs On Wed, 2005-09-28 at 14:26 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I have added a section to the top of the WAL docs explaining caching and > reliability issues: > > http://candle.pha.pa.us/main/writings/pgsql/sgml/reliability.html > > I also renamed the chapter "Reilability" rather than "WAL." > I submitted a patch last week that builds further on Bruce's changes. [Docs for PITR and full_page_writes interaction, 2 Oct] The patch includes: 1. Minor rewording of the case that Bruce refers to "recovery" and I have differentiated the cases of crash recovery and PITR. The corresponding section of the backup chapter has also been changed to include a short discussion on full_page_writes and WAL compression, with a link back to the WAL section. 2. Merged the 1st and 2nd sects of Reliability into a single section. The 1st section was only a single paragraph and so that improves readability. I've freshened that section, since it has not been updated since 7.1 and currently still reads as if WAL has just been released. 3. I've updated the section on WAL configuration with further WAL related comments and clarifications. These relate to full_page_writes and appropriate settings of wal_buffers to match. Best Regards, Simon Riggs ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [HACKERS] Added documentation about caching, reliability @ 2005-10-13 17:33 Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> parent: Simon Riggs <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Bruce Momjian @ 2005-10-13 17:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Simon Riggs <[email protected]>; +Cc: PostgreSQL-development <[email protected]>; pgsql-docs Applied. Thanks. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Simon Riggs wrote: > On Wed, 2005-09-28 at 14:26 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I have added a section to the top of the WAL docs explaining caching and > > reliability issues: > > > > http://candle.pha.pa.us/main/writings/pgsql/sgml/reliability.html > > > > I also renamed the chapter "Reilability" rather than "WAL." > > > > I submitted a patch last week that builds further on Bruce's changes. > [Docs for PITR and full_page_writes interaction, 2 Oct] > > The patch includes: > > 1. Minor rewording of the case that Bruce refers to "recovery" and I > have differentiated the cases of crash recovery and PITR. The > corresponding section of the backup chapter has also been changed to > include a short discussion on full_page_writes and WAL compression, with > a link back to the WAL section. > > 2. Merged the 1st and 2nd sects of Reliability into a single section. > The 1st section was only a single paragraph and so that improves > readability. I've freshened that section, since it has not been updated > since 7.1 and currently still reads as if WAL has just been released. > > 3. I've updated the section on WAL configuration with further WAL > related comments and clarifications. These relate to full_page_writes > and appropriate settings of wal_buffers to match. > > Best Regards, Simon Riggs > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? > > http://archives.postgresql.org > -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us [email protected] | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 16+ messages in thread
end of thread, other threads:[~2005-10-13 17:33 UTC | newest] Thread overview: 16+ messages (download: mbox mbox.gz follow: Atom feed) -- links below jump to the message on this page -- 2005-09-28 18:26 Added documentation about caching, reliability Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> 2005-09-28 18:37 ` Jonah H. Harris <[email protected]> 2005-09-28 18:40 ` Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> 2005-09-28 19:49 ` Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]> 2005-09-29 02:08 ` Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> 2005-09-29 02:16 ` Jonah H. Harris <[email protected]> 2005-09-29 02:23 ` Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]> 2005-09-29 02:30 ` Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> 2005-09-29 06:38 ` Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> 2005-09-29 14:40 ` Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> 2005-09-29 15:13 ` Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> 2005-09-29 15:17 ` Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> 2005-10-09 08:54 ` Simon Riggs <[email protected]> 2005-10-13 17:33 ` Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> 2005-10-03 17:44 Re: Added documentation about caching, reliability Merlin Moncure <[email protected]> 2005-10-03 18:48 ` Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
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