X-Original-To: pgsql-docs-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3BE39DC816; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:07:07 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08111-10; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:07:07 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- Received: from candle.pha.pa.us (candle.pha.pa.us [70.90.9.53]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553D29DC809; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:07:05 -0400 (AST) Received: (from pgman@localhost) by candle.pha.pa.us (8.11.6/8.11.6) id jBQJ76Q17355; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 14:07:06 -0500 (EST) From: Bruce Momjian Message-Id: <200512261907.jBQJ76Q17355@candle.pha.pa.us> Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Online backup vs Continuous backup In-Reply-To: <43B03E5A.70406@commandprompt.com> To: "Joshua D. Drake" Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 14:07:06 -0500 (EST) CC: PostgreSQL-development , PostgreSQL-documentation X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.119 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.119] X-Spam-Score: 0.119 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200512/32 X-Sequence-Number: 3380 Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I noticed that we are using the term "Online Backup" in our > > documentation when we are talking about continuous backup and PITR. > > > > To me, "online backup" is doing a backup while the system is online > > (online-backup), and that is accomplished by pg_dump. I know a lot of > > databases us "Online Backup" but I assume this is for historical reasons > > because at some time in the past their full backups didn't work while > > the database was online. Other systems use the term "Continuous > > Logging", but I think that is too easily confused with the server > > activity logs. > > > > I suggest the following patch to rename our capability "Continuous > > Backup". > > I have never heard the term Continuous backup. Although I have heard > online backup. The problem is that when I hear the term online backup > I think Hot backup which is what we do with pg_dump. Yes, that is my problem too. > I would just call the other Point in time recovery :) The problem there is that it is "recovery", and the documentation talks about the "backup" step. I am thinking we are going to have to add something like "Continuous backup, also called Online Backup" or something like that. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073