Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.184]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A8A39FBD20 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:26:54 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 84156-01 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:26:34 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from lists.commandprompt.com (host-254.commandprompt.net [207.173.203.254]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 438509FB2AE for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:26:49 -0300 (ADT) Received: from scratch (or-69-34-217-90.sta.embarqhsd.net [69.34.217.90]) (authenticated bits=0) by lists.commandprompt.com (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l9QMQmel030123; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:26:49 -0700 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:27:30 -0700 From: "Joshua D. Drake" To: Peter Eisentraut Cc: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org Subject: Re: First mention option for Postgres Message-ID: <20071026152730.7fe576b0@scratch> In-Reply-To: <200710262347.58330.peter_e@gmx.net> References: <20071026132509.288c6795@scratch> <200710262347.58330.peter_e@gmx.net> Organization: Joshua D. Drake X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.0; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/r+gYEyywj31pBnDuyoc.cfA"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.1/4598/Thu Oct 25 23:52:26 2007 on projects.commandprompt.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (lists.commandprompt.com [192.168.2.159]); Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:26:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200710/132 X-Sequence-Number: 12796 --Sig_/r+gYEyywj31pBnDuyoc.cfA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 23:47:57 +0200 Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > is quite common to see something like this: > > > > PostgreSQL hereafter referred to as Postgres >=20 > This is usually because the first thing is very long and the second > is an obvious abbreviation. But that does not apply in this case. >=20 > Changing all subsequent mentions to Postgres would effectively change=20 > the visible project name to Postgres or at least give undue promotion=20 > of Postgres over PostgreSQL, both of which was rejected, and while=20 > keeping everything around it as PostgreSQL, thus creating even more=20 > confusion. >=20 > Any sort of proposal that relies on all users of the affected > document to start by reading and fully grasping the very first > sentence will not work. >=20 Well as I said, it was a compromise. Everyone knows what my actual opinion is. I guess we are back where we started. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake --=20 =3D=3D=3D The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. =3D=3D=3D Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/ UNIQUE NOT NULL Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL Replication: http://www.commandprompt.com/products/ --Sig_/r+gYEyywj31pBnDuyoc.cfA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHImnUATb/zqfZUUQRAgbEAJ4kJ2G+6OCHeCgrsk0PT9TVuQrVSgCfaove Lss6i/8517imd7aqncgulrA= =2tyR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/r+gYEyywj31pBnDuyoc.cfA--