Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5879FCBCB for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:09:47 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 68648-03 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:09:46 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from main2.mycybernet.net (main2.mycybernet.net [209.222.63.140]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701C49FCB78 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:09:44 -0300 (ADT) Received: from 227-54-222-209.mycybernet.net ([209.222.54.227] helo=crankycanuck.ca) by main2.mycybernet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1IlUYx-0006tk-Lc for pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:09:43 -0400 Received: by crankycanuck.ca (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5AB014050; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:09:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:09:38 -0400 From: Andrew Sullivan To: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [DOCS] Pattern for use of the alias "Postgres" Message-ID: <20071026190938.GC4717@crankycanuck.ca> References: <20071026175443.GY4717@crankycanuck.ca> <200710261835.l9QIZhq18498@momjian.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200710261835.l9QIZhq18498@momjian.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200710/117 X-Sequence-Number: 12781 On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 02:35:43PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Frankly, what I am seeing is that the minority who don't like the alias > are "trolling" or making procedural objections in an attempt to prevent > alias adoption. Or perhaps my perception is incorrect. I resent the characterisation. I am not trying to prevent alias adoption. I'm objecting to exactly the same thing I have objected to all along: shoddy, half-thought changes to the public image of the project, undertaken with rather less planning and forethought than even the most trivial feature change to the codebase. As I've said before, as far as I'm concerned we can change the name to Postgres or TiGres or Bob the Wonder Dog; but we need to do it in a planned way, so that we don't introduce more needless confusion. But I give up. If your answer to these arguments is either declaration of consensus in the face of continued reasoned objections, or _ad hominem_ attacks on the objectors (you call us "trolls"), then I can only conclude that you've made up your mind and you're going to do what you want. In that case, I may as well not waste the time to argue against it, because nothing I say will make any difference. Regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan | ajs@crankycanuck.ca The plural of anecdote is not data. --Roger Brinner