Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.187]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 447699FCB8C; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 12:47:18 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.187]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 82875-10; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 12:46:58 -0400 (AST) Received: from vms044pub.verizon.net (vms044pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.44]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8449FCB5D; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 12:46:59 -0400 (AST) Received: from new-host.home ([71.179.23.138]) by vms044.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0JR7000GS52HV884@vms044.mailsrvcs.net>; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:42:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:42:12 -0500 From: Robert Treat Subject: Re: The definition of PGDG In-reply-to: <1577300971a22a6b93645e8256220378@biglumber.com> To: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org Cc: "Greg Sabino Mullane" , pgsql-docs@postgresql.org Message-id: <200711081142.13183.xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <1577300971a22a6b93645e8256220378@biglumber.com> User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200711/39 X-Sequence-Number: 12856 On Thursday 08 November 2007 10:38, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: > Simon Riggs wrote: > > The main reason is that Slony is Copyrighted PGDG, so we > > own the code and it is of course BSD licenced. > > As an aside, how can copyright be assigned to a non-defined > group (a concept really, as near as I can tell). Is the PGDG > actually defined anywhere yet? If not, anyone want to take > a stab at it? > > IMHO, we need to get this resolved at some point - either have > the code owned by their respective contributors (e.g. Linux) > or by a legal entity (e.g. Apache Foundation). The former may > be what we actually have anyway. > > Copying to advocacy as someone there may have the answer. AFAICT we have the former (code is owned by respective owners). AIUI, in most European countries copyright is considered naturally given rights that you have and that you cannot give away. In the U.S., you can give copy rights away, however you can only do so to a defined legal entity, of which the PGDG is not one. This can change somewhat depending on country and depending upon employer agreements, but since no one is employed by the PGDG, it's mostly moot from what I can tell. -- Robert Treat Build A Brighter LAMP :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL