Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513FB2E1BA6 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:24:32 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 58695-05 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:24:27 -0400 (AST) Received: from mail42.e.nsc.no (mail42.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.42]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE662E072B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:24:26 -0400 (AST) Received: from [192.168.0.57] (062016190089.customer.alfanett.no [62.16.190.89]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail42.nsc.no (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id lAEEOPBQ015972 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:24:25 +0100 (MET) From: "Leif B. Kristensen" To: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Avoiding upgrade backlash Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:24:24 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200711121442.31233.josh@agliodbs.com> <200711141354.49400.leif@solumslekt.org> <200711141442.11913.peter_e@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <200711141442.11913.peter_e@gmx.net> X-Face: %iea8o"[SI'kMDS.`hz7lU=?\^lC9J-]CVjo; f{4-C:$?uVUEjyN~uYFn%*aH_c3d09U>=?utf-8?q?x=0A=09TXtaoj=7EMV=2E8PgG7hik9=3BcCT2N6+u?=@Y{wH\p3*_f~FH9k,Wi74e[_l%.7b^'zJ)8S'^G<(=?utf-8?q?=3D=0A=09zw8=5CPMC3=27=7BKl9=2EzL*ks!b6wA?=,c~'F`k&Vq|ELDGa|4 X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200711/87 X-Sequence-Number: 12904 On Wednesday 14. November 2007, Peter Eisentraut wrote: >Am Mittwoch, 14. November 2007 schrieb Leif B. Kristensen: >> >from 8.2 to 8.3, it's imperative that Gentoo implements an adequate >> >> transition procedure. Blocking the old version will create >> a 'chicken-and-egg' situation where you are left incapable of >> upgrading your existing databases. According to the developers, it's >> important that a dump of the old database should be done with the >> new 8.3 version of pg_dump. > >Note that this is actually not true on both accounts. Firstly, no > developer has ever claimed that, and second it's factually false. > >It has always been "better" to use the newer pg_dump, but never > "important" or imperative. Here is what Josh said when he started this thread: On Monday 12. November 2007, Josh Berkus wrote: >I'm thinking that we need to warn everyone about: >1) They need to use 8.3's pg_dump, not the old version, to upgrade Repeat: "They need to use 8.3's pg_dump, not the old version, to upgrade" Do you mean to say that Josh is lying? -- Leif Biberg Kristensen | Registered Linux User #338009 http://solumslekt.org/ | Cruising with Gentoo/KDE My Jazz Jukebox: http://www.last.fm/user/leifbk/