Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.208.211]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF666345F3 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:43:13 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.211]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 70819-08 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:42:52 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from momjian.us (momjian.us [70.90.9.53]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4F163458B for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:43:07 -0300 (ADT) Received: (from bruce@localhost) by momjian.us (8.11.6/8.11.6) id n3FMgsY24694; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:42:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Momjian Message-Id: <200904152242.n3FMgsY24694@momjian.us> Subject: Re: Inheritance mention In-Reply-To: <17838.1239643306@sss.pgh.pa.us> To: Tom Lane Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:42:54 -0400 (EDT) CC: Scott Marlowe , Euler Taveira de Oliveira , PostgreSQL-documentation X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL124 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="ELM1239835374-21877-0_" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.098 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=AWL=0.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200904/37 X-Sequence-Number: 5125 --ELM1239835374-21877-0_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UNKNOWN-8BIT" Tom Lane wrote: > Scott Marlowe writes: > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Tom Lane wrote: > >> Pre-7.1 might indeed be old enough to cut, but how much are we really > >> saving?  Four sentences out of our current docs doesn't excite me ... > > > But since there's a doc set per version, it would make sense to stop > > mentioning unsupported versions in the docs for supported versions, > > no? Or is this a FAQ thing we're talking about? > > The problem is what to tell people to read if they want to transition > from an unsupported version to a supported version. > > If we really wanted to save some space, we could cut all the release > notes for pre-7.4 (soon pre-8.0) releases. But somehow that doesn't > seem like a good idea. What it would mainly accomplish is to make it > hard to find the old information when you wanted it. It is not a question of documention bulk but the burden of having users wade through a paragraph that is much more complex because of the 7.1 mention. I have applied the attached patch to remove mention of the 7.1 behavior in alter_table and select; I have kept the main documentation mentions unchanged. I also still reference the sql_inheritance GUC variable, where there are more details. Maybe I wasn't clear in my original posting; I never wanted to remove all mentions, but rather retain mentions in logical locations. -- Bruce Momjian http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. + --ELM1239835374-21877-0_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: inline; filename="/rtmp/diff" Index: doc/src/sgml/ref/alter_table.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/pgsql/doc/src/sgml/ref/alter_table.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.104 diff -c -c -r1.104 alter_table.sgml *** doc/src/sgml/ref/alter_table.sgml 11 Feb 2009 21:11:15 -0000 1.104 --- doc/src/sgml/ref/alter_table.sgml 15 Apr 2009 22:35:28 -0000 *************** *** 450,462 **** The name (possibly schema-qualified) of an existing table to alter. If ONLY is specified, only that table is ! altered. If ONLY is not specified, the table and all ! its descendant tables (if any) are updated. * can be ! appended to the table name to indicate that descendant tables are ! to be altered, but in the current version, this is the default ! behavior. (In releases before 7.1, ONLY was the ! default behavior. The default can be altered by changing the ! configuration parameter .) --- 450,459 ---- The name (possibly schema-qualified) of an existing table to alter. If ONLY is specified, only that table is ! altered. If ONLY is not specified, the table and any ! descendant tables are altered. The default can be changed ! using the configuration parameter . Index: doc/src/sgml/ref/select.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/pgsql/doc/src/sgml/ref/select.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.120 diff -c -c -r1.120 select.sgml *** doc/src/sgml/ref/select.sgml 2 Feb 2009 20:42:57 -0000 1.120 --- doc/src/sgml/ref/select.sgml 15 Apr 2009 22:35:32 -0000 *************** *** 271,282 **** The name (optionally schema-qualified) of an existing table or view. If ONLY is specified, only that table is scanned. If ONLY is not specified, the table and ! all its descendant tables (if any) are scanned. * ! can be appended to the table name to indicate that descendant ! tables are to be scanned, but in the current version, this is ! the default behavior. (In releases before 7.1, ! ONLY was the default behavior.) The default ! behavior can be modified by changing the configuration option. --- 271,278 ---- The name (optionally schema-qualified) of an existing table or view. If ONLY is specified, only that table is scanned. If ONLY is not specified, the table and ! any descendant tables are scanned. The default ! behavior can be changed using the configuration option. --ELM1239835374-21877-0_--