Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bE1zj-0007no-B8 for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2016 22:12:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bE1zi-0007HO-Tv for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2016 22:12:06 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:1501:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bE1zi-0007HH-DU for pgsql-docs@postgresql.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2016 22:12:06 +0000 Received: from smtprelay0009.b.hostedemail.com ([64.98.42.9] helo=smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bE1ze-000222-SL for pgsql-docs@postgresql.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2016 22:12:05 +0000 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (10.5.19.248.rfc1918.com [10.5.19.248]) by smtprelay05.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C595D32AEEC; Fri, 17 Jun 2016 22:12:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Session-Marker: 616C76686572726540616C76682E6E6F2D69702E6F7267 X-Spam-Summary: 50,0,0,,d41d8cd98f00b204,alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org,:::,RULES_HIT:41:355:379:599:967:973:988:989:1260:1263:1277:1311:1312:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1519:1534:1541:1593:1594:1595:1596:1711:1730:1747:1777:1792:2393:2525:2553:2560:2563:2682:2685:2828:2859:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3353:3865:3866:3867:3868:3870:3871:3872:3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4605:4659:5007:6261:7903:9025:9121:10004:10394:10400:10848:11232:11256:11257:11658:11914:12296:12517:12519:12660:12740:13069:13311:13357:13439:13894:13895:14764:21080:30025:30054:30090:30091,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:fn,MSBL:0,DNSBL:none,Custom_rules:0:0:0,LFtime:1,LUA_SUMMARY:none X-HE-Tag: space80_4bd36cee9ba28 X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 2050 Received: from alvin.alvh.no-ip.org (unknown [216.155.90.98]) (Authenticated sender: alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org) by omf13.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Fri, 17 Jun 2016 22:12:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by alvin.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B2472686; Fri, 17 Jun 2016 18:11:58 -0400 (CLT) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 18:11:58 -0400 From: Alvaro Herrera To: Bruce Momjian Cc: PostgreSQL-documentation Subject: Re: Pg_upgrade and collation Message-ID: <20160617221158.GA143199@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20160617220935.GF19359@momjian.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Pg-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-docs Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-docs-owner@postgresql.org Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 06:01:59PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 05:51:54PM -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > The attached patch documents that pg_upgrade requires old/new servers to > > > > use compatibile collation library versions as well. > > > > > > I think this is way too thin to be helpful: > > > > Well, this is a much larger issue than pg_upgrade, e.g. moving a data > > directory from one cluster to another with a different collation library > > version could also cause problems, and I don't know that is documented > > at all. > > > > If we want to go larger, we have to do this in a more central location. > > Frankly, pg_upgrade is, by definition, upgrading on the same server, so > I don't even see how they could have mismatched collation library > versions, but it seemed good to document it. By this argument, the proposed patch seems pointless to me. > The larger issue of moving clusters is a separate issue that needs > documentation somewhere else. Sure. -- Álvaro Herrera http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services -- Sent via pgsql-docs mailing list (pgsql-docs@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-docs