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Katz" , Bruce Momjian , Magnus Hagander , Peter Eisentraut , pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org Subject: Re: Release note trimming: another modest proposal Message-ID: <20190205171707.3ct4ch3q25xg4lpo@alap3.anarazel.de> References: <20190125233111.GE13803@momjian.us> <16080.1548459680@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20190125234614.GH13803@momjian.us> <8fd2ae88-49de-26f3-def3-e4381cb7e774@postgresql.org> <21920.1548515166@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20190205060201.jo3ejddklqxb5a4q@alap3.anarazel.de> <72f54463-6912-115e-cb89-1fb552659505@postgresql.org> <20190205170150.yim3w67sogqw2dg3@alap3.anarazel.de> <9649.1549386657@sss.pgh.pa.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9649.1549386657@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk Hi, On 2019-02-05 12:10:57 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > Andres Freund writes: > > On 2019-02-05 08:50:16 -0500, Jonathan S. Katz wrote: > >> The original thought process was to _not_ do that given the effort, but > >> if it's just for `/current/` it may not be so bad. > > > I think it definitely should also be on /devel/, that's what's out there > > on blog posts and such. I am flummoxed that we're just giving up google > > juice by willy nilly returning 404 for stuff that's more widely linked > > than the average page. It's not like we are that good placed in searches > > (although that's primarily related to other things). > > I thought there was some concern that we were deoptimizing by having > multiple copies of substantially the same page. I think that's an independent issue, given that the rest of the docs are largely duplicated between the versions too. > For something like release-9-6-10.html, there's no value in having it > appear in three or four different places. You can't even argue that > the later branches might be more up-to-date: that text is *the same*, > modulo toolchain-forced markup differences, in every branch; or at > least if it isn't it means I screwed up. If somebody proposed adding automatic redirects from the older linked versions to the newest /current/ URL with that version's release notes, I'm not sure I would have argued against that. But I do *not* think it's actually accurate they are the same - it's a significant difference that they're linking to the corresponding version's pages, because those will contain that version's syntax / docs. Greetings, Andres Freund